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Subject: AW: Searching For & Deleting and Object
From: Schiffinger Ralph 2100 <Ralph.Schiffinger@ERSTEBANK.AT>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:28:00 +0100
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It's the old "missing-command-line-option-story".
man ovmapcount gives you -c -l -u -a -v.
ovmapcount -? at the commandline gives you -a -b -c -l -u -r -v.
Regards, Ralph.

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Von:    Leslie Clark [SMTP:lclark@US.IBM.COM]
Gesendet am:    Mittwoch, 13. Jänner 1999 04:28
An:     NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu; Schiffinger Ralph 2100
Betreff:        Re: Searching For & Deleting and Object


I only noticed it in V5, but I did a little searching and it appears that
it has been in
V4 since at least PTF U451880. It may not be documented until later.  The
latest
PTF for V4, by the way, is U459387.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking

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Vince Rosso@TRANSALTA
12/01/99 11:51 AM

Leslie the option ovmapcount -b doesn't exist in my version 4.1.   Is it
only in the latest version?



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Vince, back to your original question, when I see that message from
ovtopofix, I ignore it. When I next open the map and it synchronizes,
I believe the offending object is gone (it was probably an interface
or something).  I may be wrong.

You might also want to check out the new option on ovmapcount , -b.
It searches the map databases for things that do not exist in the object
database. These would be things you CAN find on the map but which
have no object id when you display object info. I think this is the kind
of problem Blaine is talking about. These things have to be found
on the map and deleted, ovmapcount -b just points them out, apparently.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
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"Owens, Blaine C" <bowens@EASTMAN.COM> on 01-11-99 08:41:05 AM

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Hmm, may be a different problem. I actually was able to find the "20540"
submap even though there was no "visible" object on any submap and
deleted it. Still, delete and readd of all map references to this
particular nodename might fix. Good luck.

Blaine Owens
Eastman Chemical Company
Email - bowens@eastman.com
Phone - (423)229-3579
Fax     - (423)229-1188

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince Rosso [SMTP:Vince_Rosso@TRANSALTA.COM]
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 5:38 PM
> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> Subject:      Re: Searching For & Deleting and Object
>
> Vince Rosso@TRANSALTA
> 08/01/99 03:38 PM
>
> I looked at all the submaps for the node and they all show the current
> object id.   Are you suggesting that I should delete all these
> references.
> Does that mean I should delete the node and all these references and
> then
> re-add the node.   Appreciate the help.
>
> vince
>
>
>
>
>
> Vince, do Locate --> Submap. Depending on how many nodes you have on
> your map this could take a LONG time. On the resulting screen enter
> "nodename" in the Find Submap blank and hit return/enter. Select the
> node and click Delete. I had to do this recently for the same reason.
>
> Blaine Owens
> Eastman Chemical Company
> Email - bowens@eastman.com
> Phone - (423)229-3579
> Fax     - (423)229-1188
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vince Rosso [SMTP:Vince_Rosso@TRANSALTA.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 1:05 PM
> > To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> > Subject:      Searching For & Deleting and Object
> >
> > Vince Rosso@TRANSALTA
> > 08/01/99 11:04 AM
> >
> > We are running Netview 4.1 on a Digital Unix platform.  After
> running
> > "ovtopofix -a " the log that is printed shows a couple of nodes with
> > the
> > message as follows:
> > "nodename (20540) - - removed from topology, still in 1 maps"
> > "nodename (20540) - - Please delete object from all maps"
> > "Updating nodename (objid = 20539)"
> >
> > After running ovobjprint, ovtopodump and ovmapdump the results all
> > show the
> > new objid of 20539, but I can't find any reference to the objid
> 20540.
> > Is
> > there any way to search by object ID rather than host name.   Is
> there
> > some
> > other means to delete references to the old object id.  Thanks!

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