I will try to explain this as best I can, but I would not be overly
concerned about the details of this when there is no reason to be. Unless
you have a definite conflict -- you added an event class to trapd.conf for
some event to be better able to do something in TEC you wanted to do, and
now TIPN wants to give it another, different class -- I don't see that
there is anything to worry about. But customizing traps, for whatever
reason always carries that risk -- you may have to re-do your customization
later if your environment changes.
The TIPN stuff, I think, assumes that you will use the internal NetView
adapter for TIPN, because it updates trapd.conf. But you could modify the
external adapter to do the same job -- at least I see no reason why you
could not. Why you would want to do so is still up to you. In my append
about using the two adapters at the same time I was not recommending that
approach. I was only pointing out that it is possible.
The two event adapters, the internal one via nvserverd and the external one
from TEC work, differently. The external one adds those event classes to
the event according to its config files before the event is sent. The
.baroc file, which is what the list you see in the Adapter's book is made
from, just enumerates those for TEC. With the external adapter you use a
filter to decide what to send to TEC, and thus you can send all sorts of
"Log Only" NetView events without modifying trapd.conf, since the filter
has no knowledge of the event status.
With the internal adapter, "Log Only" events are not sent. You have to
modify trapd.conf to get them to go, by giving them some other kind of
event status; and if you don't like the default nvserverd class, you must
also specify another event class. You can use what is provided in
trapd.conf, or look in the tecad_nv6k .baroc file for other appropriate
classes you like better, or you can make up your own. What event class
you use is entirely up to you. But you specify it in trapd.conf.
So changes to the trapd.conf file will only affect the use of the internal
adapter. The external one will be blind to them. And if you are using the
just the internal adapter, and you don't like what it is sending, you can
easily modify what is being sent. One of the reasons the internal adapter
was created was because many users had said they found the setup and
customization of the external one to be too difficult. So TIPN assumes
that is the adapter you will be using. But if you are familiar with the
other one, you could modify it to do the same job, though as I said, I
don't see why you would want to.
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
"Prokott, Joe" <Joe.Prokott@WESTGROUP.COM> on 02/16/99 01:35:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Events to different TEC servers
We have not implemented the TEC NetView event adapter in our environment
yet, but we installed TIPN on our development NV system. Looking at the
/usr/OV/conf/C/trapd.conf file after the TIPN install, it appeared that the
TIPN install added "EVENT_CLASS" definitions to the trapd.conf file, but
not
all of the defined NetView event classes listed on page 7-7 through 7-12 of
the T/EC 3.6 Adapter's Guide. So, I am wondering exactly what the TIPN
install is doing for the NetView event adapter vs. what the T/EC NetView
event adapter does? It seems like there is some install duplication of
Event Classes between the TIPN and T/EC Event Adapter install and I am
wondering if this will cause any problems with customizations, etc...? Has
anyone else installed both TIPN and the T/EC NV event adapter in their
environment? Thanks,
Joe Prokott - West Group
Network Architect
610 Opperman Drive
St. Paul, MN 55123
Phone: 651-687-4536
Fax: 651-687-6946
E-mail: joe.prokott@westgroup.com
-----Original Message-----
From: James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM [mailto:James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 11:19 AM
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: Events to different TEC servers
You have me confused mightily Joe.
TIPN does not come with its own TEC adapter. You would use either
nvserverd or tecad_nv6k to send events to TEC. Beyond that I cannot quite
follow your question. What files are you looking at which caused you to
ask it?
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
"Prokott, Joe" <Joe.Prokott@WESTGROUP.COM> on 02/15/99 06:14:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Events to different TEC servers
James,
How does the TIPN Event adapter fit into the "tecad_nv6k" adapter? It
appears there is some duplication (e.g., NV6K_Warnings, etc...) between the
two adapters, and some differences (e.g., "NV6K_Netmon_Dump_Interface"
defined in the "tecad_nv6k" adapter but not defined in the TIPN event
adapter) between the two. Is the TIPN Event adapter just a subset of the
"tecad_nv6k" adapter? Will there be any overlap in installing both
adapters
(if one is not a complete subset of the other) and how will NV handle such
an install? Thanks,
Joe Prokott - West Group
Network Architect
610 Opperman Drive
St. Paul, MN 55123
Phone: 651-687-4536
Fax: 651-687-6946
E-mail: joe.prokott@westgroup.com
-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 8:53 AM
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: Events to different TEC servers
No TEC adapter provided by any Tivoli product supports sending to more than
one TEC at a time. That is because TEC itself does not support it, and
they supply the library routines which all adapters currently use. They do
support the use of a backup server, but it only gets events when the
primary is unavailable.
You could make this work, however, because there are two independent TEC
adapters for NetView. One is the internal adapter which selects events to
send using a ruleset and sends then via the nvserverd daemon. The other is
the tecad_nv6k adapter which is provided by TEC. That adapter is a daemon
which uses a filter to select what to forward to TEC. The two are
completely independent of each other, so you could install both. Be warned
however that this a rather a lot of work and, as Joe Prokott already
pointed out, you'll have to figure out for yourself in great detail exactly
what to send to each adapter.
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
Carla Raffi <craffi@SOGEI.IT> on 02/12/99 09:14:09 AM
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Subject: Events to different TEC servers
Hi,
I foward events to TEC,
my environment is 3.6 TME server and
5.1 Netview .
My question is :
May I foward different events to two
different TECs ???
I have only a Netview server that is a manged node of TMR server1
but I have also a TMR server2 which machines send snmp events to the
Netview server.
How may I send snmp events for TMR1 to TMR1 TEC and snmp events for TMR2 to
TMR2 TEC ???
I have two TMRs due to two large numbers of managed nodes (about 400).
Thank you
Bye
Carla Raffi
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