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Re: object in ovwdb but not on the map (was no subject)

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Subject: Re: object in ovwdb but not on the map (was no subject)
From: James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 08:25:35 -0500
First, ovtopofix, as the name implies,  and as the man page will tell you, is
used primarily to synchronize the topology database with the map database, and
it only does very limited things with the object database that ovwdb maintains.
All that ovtopofix will remove from the ovwdb-owned object database are hints --
objects which are not fully fleshed out.  Once an object has been discovered and
pinged and  all the appropriate fields added, ovtopofix will not remove that
object.  It can, however, force a map update of an object that is the topology
database to be put on the map.  See the -u | -U options for that.

What options did you try?   If you do an ovtopodump -lvr  can you find this
object in the topology database or not ?  The ovobjprint should also give fields
like "maps exist" and  "maps managed" and a symbol list for each map which you
can then double-check with ovmapdump.  If you have that, then you need to try
again to find this object on the map and delete it from there.  Note than when
you run ovtopofix  for any reason, most of what it does is to update object
create and last updated times, which then causes ipmap to re-evaluate the object
when the red-write map is next started.  Usually when you run ovtopofix, unless
you are just trying to remove hints, you must then restart the GUI with the
read-write map to see any results, because it is ipmap who will make the changes
to the maps based on the topology update.

As has been posted her before, there are ways to rip an object out of the object
database (and out of toplogy) but they are
dangerous because they do so without regard to the other databases, so you can
corrupt the whole thing, and  then the only way out is to restore from a backup
of /usr/OV/databases/openview/  or to clear the toplogy and start over.  Before
you go that route you need to determine (a) in what databases does this object
exist and (b) what is my backup plan in case this backfires.  We can talk about
that some more, if necessary, after you have done some more investigation.


James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



"Boulieris, Arthur" <Arthur.Boulieris@NZ.UNISYS.COM> on 12/21/99 04:43:17 PM

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To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
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Hello All,
Im running netview 5.1.1 for Solaris 2.6.
I have an object thats in my ovwdb but not on the map?
I can do an ovobjprint -s <ip-address> and it prints out info for an object.
If I do an ovtopfix using all the options for this object it wont go away.
If I try to add to a map it says I cant cos the object exists.
Any one have a fix for this catch 22?

any help much appreciated,
regards

    Arthur Boulieris
    Implementation & Support
    Systems Management
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