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Re: TME 10 Netview on NT

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Subject: Re: TME 10 Netview on NT
From: "Boyles, Gary P" <gary.p.boyles@INTEL.COM>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 08:46:29 -0800
Miki,
I've got 1193 nodes being monitored by a 500MHZ single-processor Pentium-III
processor.  About 1/3 routers, the rest are switches and hubs. There still
is
plenty of CPU to spare.  If I were to do it now though... I'd be going for
a 733+MHZ machine... (just because...).

The key is memory.  Size the NT system the same way you would a UNIX box
(i.e. with a lot of memory).  I've got 256MB.  I'd recommend not going
below this.  Its not worth trying to optimize the system just to save a
couple of hundred bucks... especially when were only talking about $2000
for the entire system (minus a good monitor).

Brings me to the next point... go for a 19-21 inch monitor.  It will save
you those future trips to the eye-doctor.

Final suggestion...
In production here... we currently run on a large/expensive 2-procesor
platform (the 500 MHZ system is my test-system), but if I had the choice to
do over again... I'd vote for two cheap/separate PC platforms... each with
a minimum of 500 MHZ, 256MB memory, and 6+ GB of disk.

For me, when a platform cost $50,000 to implement it made economical sense
putting all the SW on one box.  When it cost $2000 to implement a platform,
I'd rather buy one for monitoring (NetView), and one for configuration
(Cisco).  Then I don't have to worry about one package interfering with
another.  This has happened to me on UNIX, and it happens on NT even more
so... as one vendor assumes he/she is the sole-owner of certain DLLs.

It all comes down to a matter of pain... do you want the pain of
building two operating-systems, or the pain of testing the "good neighbor"
integration capabilities of two large network management products.  Since
the vendors themselves do little integration-testing, the 2-platform
model makes the most sense to me.

In either scenerio though... a 500MHZ platform will do the job for you.

Regards,

Gary Boyles


-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:16 AM
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: TME 10 Netview on NT


NetView for NT will have no problem with a network of this size, though I
would
still recommend that you get as large and as fast a machine (dual processors
preferred) as you can afford.  There are NT versions of Nways and Cisco
Works
available for NT but they do not integrate as tightly with NetView as they
do on
UNIX.  Each one is designed so it can be installed and run by itself on an
NT
machine.  Basically the integration is by launching web pages.  But I have
no
real expertise in this area of integration and I was hoping some
knowledgeable
user would respond.

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



Miki Koenigstein <miki-koenigstein@TADIRAN.COM> on 02/21/2000 08:31:39 AM

Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
NetView
      <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>

To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject:  TME 10 Netview on NT




Hope this is not a question that has been asked too often. (i have been out
of the  forum for a while).

i am looking for ideas or experience with Netveiw 6000 on  NT operating
system. This would be for about 400 nodes with less the 10 routers.
Does Cisco Works install on NT. Also need to manage 22xx  routers.
Is there a NOS version for NT?


Thanks for any help


miki


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