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Re: Rulesets (was Re: RE: NV-L Digest - 05 Sep 2000)

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Subject: Re: Rulesets (was Re: RE: NV-L Digest - 05 Sep 2000)
From: lclark@us.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:54:05 -0400

And Ray, I don't trust that Linux emulator you are using, either. Remember
how the titlebar did not always match the ruleset you were editing?


Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking

James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM@tkg.com on 09/06/2000 05:47:12 PM

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Subject:  Rulesets (was Re: [NV-L] RE: NV-L Digest - 05 Sep 2000)

Ray -
You've got me.  If you are root when you run the ruleset editor, then your
changes should be saved.  If you are not root when you start the editor, it
should pop up a message saying that you don't have update authority to

Next time, cd to that directory in another open window while you run the
and do a File --> Save before you exit.
The rulesets owned by bin:bin are the ones we shipped -- all our
executables are
originally owned by bin:bin. Once you change them, they should be owned by
Do you see this happening or not?

Also, the .BAK files are backup copies of the rulesets you edit.  They are
created when you open a ruleset for editing in case you change your mind
cancel all your changes.  So if you ever want to go back to a previous
even after you have saved a new one, it is still there in the .BAK file and
can just rename it.   When you open a ruleset for editing, in addition to
.BAK copy being made or replaced,  a temp copy called
<rulesetname>.<random_suffix> will b created.  This will change as you add
parts to your open ruleset and use "Save".  When you exit using the
the temp copy replaces the open copy, which is then deleted.  If you keep a
window open while you edit, you should be able to see and verify that all
this happens.

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
 Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT

Foss Ray-xrf001 <Ray.Foss@motorola.com> on 09/06/2000 04:34:51 PM

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cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject:  [NV-L] RE: NV-L Digest - 05 Sep 2000

Thanks to Michael Seibold and James Shanks for the suggestions to my
and FORWARD issue from last week.  I think I now know enough to try to
implement the ideas.

I'm now running into a problem where NONE of my ruleset editor changes seem
to be taking effect.  I make my changes, save the ruleset and when I go
into the same ruleset, they are lost!

I do some extra files created in /usr/OV/conf/rulesets such as: x.rs.BAK
x.rsixMQab where "x" is the ruleset name I am trying to modify.  They are
owned by root:bin.  The other rulesets seem to be owned by bin:bin.

Any ideas?

Ray Foss
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