RE: SmartSet vs. nvUtil

["Cowan, Chris" <Chris.Cowan@2ndwaveinc.com>]

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Ray,

I observed the same thing, opened a PMR, which was open for several week,
and then was unable to test and reproduce it properly, because it was on a
customer's production network.

In my case, it was a large object database with approximately 4500 Cisco
devices.  There were close to 30K objects in ovobj DB.  I was seeing
descrepancies in the 100's between the GUI SmartSet and output of "nvUtil l"
with the output of "nvUtil e".     nvUtil e seemed to be always right from
an object count perspective, nvUtil l was not.   Based on this alone, I
suspected collmap, since it seems that nvUtil e accesses the obj DB
directly.

I probably should have never let them close the ticket, but I was pressed
for time.   

-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:34 AM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: Re: [NV-L] SmartSet vs. nvUtil


nvcold is the daemon which populates smartsets.  The GUI is maintained by
collmap.  You have a collmap problem and you need to call Support.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software
IBM Software Group
Please note that my new id is jshanks@us.ibm.com



"Westphal, Raymond" <RWestphal@erac.com>@tkg.com on 09/27/2001 08:15:11 AM

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Greetings Everyone.

NetView for Unix 6.0.2 running on AIX 4.3.3.8 w/ IY22983 netmon efix,
IY15764 libovsnmp.a efix, IY21527 CERT advisory efix.

Here's my dilemna:
A user noticed that an HP switch object was not in the SmartSet for HP
switches. When I investigated I noticed there were only 64 objects
displayed
in the SmartSet. I tested  the SmartSet editor and the missing object is
displayed in the list. When I exited the editor and refreshed the map - it
was still not displayed. I then ran the command 'nvUtil l HPSWITCH
"%Selection Name%"'. The object is listed. If I run the command 'nvUtil l
HPSWITCH "%Selection Name%" | wc -l', the count is 70. I even reset nvcold
but that had no effect.

The SmartSet uses the sysObjectID of 1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.3.7.11.18 or
1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.3.7.11.19. Another indication is that the object is truly
an HP switch is that I created a new symbol for this HP switch, then I
configured the oid_to_sym file and the symbol is correctly assigned to all
HP Switch objects in the SmartSet.

The HP switches use DHCP IP address assignment. The device name is not in
DNS. The community name for the switch is specified in the
communityNames.conf file; it is not the Global Default community name.
NetView has added the entry into the SNMP Configuration Specific Nodes
section.

Does anyone have an idea for what seems to be a SmartSet and nvUtil
discrepancy?

Thanks in advance.

Ray Westphal
Enterprise Rent-A-Car

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Ray,

I observed the same thing, opened a PMR, which was open for several week, and then was unable to test and reproduce it properly, because it was on a customer's production network.

In my case, it was a large object database with approximately 4500 Cisco devices.  There were close to 30K objects in ovobj DB.  I was seeing descrepancies in the 100's between the GUI SmartSet and output of "nvUtil l" with the output of "nvUtil e".     nvUtil e seemed to be always right from an object count perspective, nvUtil l was not.   Based on this alone, I suspected collmap, since it seems that nvUtil e accesses the obj DB directly.

I probably should have never let them close the ticket, but I was pressed for time.  

-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:34 AM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: Re: [NV-L] SmartSet vs. nvUtil

nvcold is the daemon which populates smartsets.  The GUI is maintained by
collmap.  You have a collmap problem and you need to call Support.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software
IBM Software Group
Please note that my new id is jshanks@us.ibm.com

"Westphal, Raymond" <RWestphal@erac.com>@tkg.com on 09/27/2001 08:15:11 AM

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cc:
Subject:  [NV-L] SmartSet vs. nvUtil

Greetings Everyone.

NetView for Unix 6.0.2 running on AIX 4.3.3.8 w/ IY22983 netmon efix,
IY15764 libovsnmp.a efix, IY21527 CERT advisory efix.

Here's my dilemna:
A user noticed that an HP switch object was not in the SmartSet for HP
switches. When I investigated I noticed there were only 64 objects
displayed
in the SmartSet. I tested  the SmartSet editor and the missing object is
displayed in the list. When I exited the editor and refreshed the map - it
was still not displayed. I then ran the command 'nvUtil l HPSWITCH
"%Selection Name%"'. The object is listed. If I run the command 'nvUtil l
HPSWITCH "%Selection Name%" | wc -l', the count is 70. I even reset nvcold
but that had no effect.

The SmartSet uses the sysObjectID of 1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.3.7.11.18 or
1.3.6.1.4.1.11.2.3.7.11.19. Another indication is that the object is truly
an HP switch is that I created a new symbol for this HP switch, then I
configured the oid_to_sym file and the symbol is correctly assigned to all
HP Switch objects in the SmartSet.

The HP switches use DHCP IP address assignment. The device name is not in
DNS. The community name for the switch is specified in the
communityNames.conf file; it is not the Global Default community name.
NetView has added the entry into the SNMP Configuration Specific Nodes
section.

Does anyone have an idea for what seems to be a SmartSet and nvUtil
discrepancy?

Thanks in advance.

Ray Westphal
Enterprise Rent-A-Car

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