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Subject: Re: Réf. : Re: Remove Workstation from Map
From: "James Shanks" <jshanks@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:13:29 -0500
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On UNIX you use the Smartset/Collection editor.  It has both GUI and text 
editor modes.  You can use the GUI mode.  Just click the buttons.
Type in "collectioned" or pull down Tools --> Smartset Editor
To get a smartset with non-SNMP objects, create one with the attribute 
'isSNMPSupported' equal to false.
To get a smartset with only MS objcets, create one with the vendor equal 
to Microsoft  or  the attribute SNMP sysObjectId like (~) 1.3.6.1.4.1.311. 
 (make certain to omit the initial dot "." in string here).  Works ofr me. 

You can of course continue this logic to add other vendors or make 
compound conditions for your smartsets.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
 





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How to define Smartsets
that include workstation and non-snmp equipment ?

Benoit





"Leslie Clark" <lclark@US.IBM.COM>@tkg.com le 2001-11-12 10:57:04

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This is done with the seedfile. There are a couple of ways.

First, if you have a good addressing scheme, you should exclude them
by address range. This is the best performer. If you have assigned DHCP
address ranges, put them in your seedfile like this:

!10.*.23-150.40-255

If you don't have a tidy addressing scheme, or if you also have a lot
of workstations that don't abide by the rules, you can exclude them by
snmp sysObject id. Since most of them will be either non-snmp, or
Microsoft, you can exclude them like this;

!@oid 0                                 # excludes non-snmp
!@oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.*      # excludes MS

The second one would also exclude servers, so you would then add
in an explicit list of the servers that you do want to allow.

Make sure netmon is using the seedfile, and has re-read it.

To get them out of the map after updating the seedfile you can
either rediscover the entire network, or you can locate and
delete them. To locate and delete them, define Smartsets
that include them. Then you can grab them easily and delete
them. If there are a lot, this can take quite a while, but if you have
done a lot of map customization it will be worth the wait. I prefer
to stop netmon during the delete, and after all of the events for
the deletions have come in, do an ovtopofix -a.


Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit




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Benoit

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On UNIX you use the Smartset/Collection editor.  It has both GUI and text editor modes.  You can use the GUI mode.  Just click the buttons.
Type in "collectioned" or pull down Tools --> Smartset Editor
To get a smartset with non-SNMP objects, create one with the attribute 'isSNMPSupported' equal to false.
To get a smartset with only MS objcets, create one with the vendor equal to Microsoft  or  the attribute SNMP sysObjectId like (~)  1.3.6.1.4.1.311.  (make certain to omit the initial dot "." in string here).  Works ofr me.
You can of course continue this logic to add other vendors or make compound conditions for your smartsets.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group




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How to define Smartsets
that include workstation and non-snmp equipment ?

Benoit





"Leslie Clark" <lclark@US.IBM.COM>@tkg.com le 2001-11-12 10:57:04

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This is done with the seedfile. There are a couple of ways.

First, if you have a good addressing scheme, you should exclude them
by address range. This is the best performer. If you have assigned DHCP
address ranges, put them in your seedfile like this:

!10.*.23-150.40-255

If you don't have a tidy addressing scheme, or if you also have a lot
of workstations that don't abide by the rules, you can exclude them by
snmp sysObject id. Since most of them will be either non-snmp, or
Microsoft, you can exclude them like this;

!@oid 0                                 # excludes non-snmp
!@oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.*      # excludes MS

The second one would also exclude servers, so you would then add
in an explicit list of the servers that you do want to allow.

Make sure netmon is using the seedfile, and has re-read it.

To get them out of the map after updating the seedfile you can
either rediscover the entire network, or you can locate and
delete them. To locate and delete them, define Smartsets
that include them. Then you can grab them easily and delete
them. If there are a lot, this can take quite a while, but if you have
done a lot of map customization it will be worth the wait. I prefer
to stop netmon during the delete, and after all of the events for
the deletions have come in, do an ovtopofix -a.


Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit




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Benoit

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