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This is a multipart message in MIME format. Start up xnmtrap from a command line and go look at this trap. What's in
the source field? is it "?" or "A"? trapd knows that it's not from
NetView (netmon) but the Event Display may be relying on the proper
character being in the file.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
"Brian Backer" <brian.backer@electrolux.com>
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12/12/2001 09:38 AM
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James,
Thanks for the reply. You did clear things up for me but that leads me to
another question.....
In the Event Display application, when a trap comes in and I go into the
details of the event, it says Source: Source not known ?
I am thinking from you said earlier that it should understand that the
source is the Agent?!?
If that's the case, why would it say unknown?
Is there a way to correct this? (or is it not broken?)
thanks again..
b
"James Shanks"
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09:26 AM
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You might want to have a look at the man page for trapd.conf and see if it
will answer some of your questions.
I don't understand what you mean when you say that it is not receiving
the
"Source". The "Source" is a single character indicating origin. In this
case the trap must be configured as an Agent trap in trapd.conf, because
there is a big "A" in the log before each variable. If you mean the
originating node, that is given by the "10.73.7.242" IP address, so this
device must not be in DNS or /etc/hosts. If it were, then trapd would
resolve that to a hostname.
Nothing is stored in UNIX. Traps pass through and trapd formats them,
logs
them, and passes them on to other processes. That's all there is to it.
If the trap has ten variables and you only format one, the others are not
displayed or logged anywhere.
Based on the excerpt, this trap is configured with the Log Message being
set to
$E $G $S $# $*
which means to display, in order, the enterprise (dl3800) generic id (6)
specific id (108) number of variables (4 args:) and then display each
variable in turn. Each number in a bracket [1] represents a variable, and
since there are four, it takes 5 lines to display the entire thing.
Clearly
you are getting all that is being sent.
What are you expecting that you would ask "how can I determine whether or
not the DL3800 is actually
sending this information.?". Of course it is, where else would all this
come from?
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
"Brian Backer"
<brian.backer@electrolux.com> To: IBM NetView
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Hey all...
We're running NV602 on AIX 433.... I have a question about Traps.
I have a Digital Link DL3800 set to send traps to netview and it all
appears to be working just fine, however, it's not receiving the 'Source'
my question is, how can I determine whether or not the DL3800 is actually
sending this information.? I have looked in the trapd.log file and I
don't
see anything in there, but does that store the entire trap or only what it
knows about and can format?
Any advice to help me figure this out would be greatly appreciated...
here's the entries from the trapd.log file as well...
----------
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
108 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0
(Integer):
2
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 1
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 108
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
49 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 49
1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
34 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 3
1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 34
1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163428 3 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 ? Agent
Interface Down (linkDown Trap) enterprise:dl3800 (1.3.6.1.4.1.300.102)
args(1):
1008163428 3 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 ? [1]
mgmt.mib-2.transmission.ds1.6.1.1.0 (Integer): 2
1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
38 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 3
1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 38
1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
36 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 1
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 36
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
34 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 34
1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
36 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 36
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
40 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 3
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 40
1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
38 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4
1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 38
1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
40 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4
1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 40
1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163442 3 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 ? Agent
Interface Up (linkUp Trap) enterprise:dl3800 (1.3.6.1.4.1.300.102)
args(1):
1008163442 3 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 ? [1]
mgmt.mib-2.transmission.ds1.6.1.1.0 (Integer): 2
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
108 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0
(Integer):
2
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 108
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800
6
49 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer):
2
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 1
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 49
1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4]
private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0
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Start up xnmtrap from a command line and go look at this trap. What's in the source field? is it "?" or "A"? trapd knows that it's not from NetView (netmon) but the Event Display may be relying on the proper character being in the file. James Shanks Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
James, Thanks for the reply. You did clear things up for me but that leads me to another question..... In the Event Display application, when a trap comes in and I go into the details of the event, it says Source: Source not known ? I am thinking from you said earlier that it should understand that the source is the Agent?!? If that's the case, why would it say unknown? Is there a way to correct this? (or is it not broken?) thanks again.. b "James Shanks" <jshanks@us.ib To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com> m.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [NV-L] trap question owner-nv-l@tkg .com 12/12/2001 09:26 AM Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion You might want to have a look at the man page for trapd.conf and see if it will answer some of your questions. I don't understand what you mean when you say that it is not receiving the "Source". The "Source" is a single character indicating origin. In this case the trap must be configured as an Agent trap in trapd.conf, because there is a big "A" in the log before each variable. If you mean the originating node, that is given by the "10.73.7.242" IP address, so this device must not be in DNS or /etc/hosts. If it were, then trapd would resolve that to a hostname. Nothing is stored in UNIX. Traps pass through and trapd formats them, logs them, and passes them on to other processes. That's all there is to it. If the trap has ten variables and you only format one, the others are not displayed or logged anywhere. Based on the excerpt, this trap is configured with the Log Message being set to $E $G $S $# $* which means to display, in order, the enterprise (dl3800) generic id (6) specific id (108) number of variables (4 args:) and then display each variable in turn. Each number in a bracket [1] represents a variable, and since there are four, it takes 5 lines to display the entire thing. Clearly you are getting all that is being sent. What are you expecting that you would ask "how can I determine whether or not the DL3800 is actually sending this information.?". Of course it is, where else would all this come from? James Shanks Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group "Brian Backer" <brian.backer@electrolux.com> To: IBM NetView Sent by: owner-nv-l@tkg.com Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com> cc: Subject: [NV-L] 12/12/2001 08:40 AM trap question Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion Hey all... We're running NV602 on AIX 433.... I have a question about Traps. I have a Digital Link DL3800 set to send traps to netview and it all appears to be working just fine, however, it's not receiving the 'Source' my question is, how can I determine whether or not the DL3800 is actually sending this information.? I have looked in the trapd.log file and I don't see anything in there, but does that store the entire trap or only what it knows about and can format? Any advice to help me figure this out would be greatly appreciated... here's the entries from the trapd.log file as well... ---------- 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 108 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 1 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 108 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 49 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 49 1008163427 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:47 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 34 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 3 1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 34 1008163428 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163428 3 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 ? Agent Interface Down (linkDown Trap) enterprise:dl3800 (1.3.6.1.4.1.300.102) args(1): 1008163428 3 Wed Dec 12 08:23:48 2001 10.73.7.242 ? [1] mgmt.mib-2.transmission.ds1.6.1.1.0 (Integer): 2 1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 38 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 3 1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 38 1008163429 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:49 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 36 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 1 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 36 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 34 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 34 1008163431 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:51 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 36 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 36 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 40 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 3 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 40 1008163432 7 Wed Dec 12 08:23:52 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 38 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4 1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 38 1008163440 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:00 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 40 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4 1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 40 1008163442 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163442 3 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 ? Agent Interface Up (linkUp Trap) enterprise:dl3800 (1.3.6.1.4.1.300.102) args(1): 1008163442 3 Wed Dec 12 08:24:02 2001 10.73.7.242 ? [1] mgmt.mib-2.transmission.ds1.6.1.1.0 (Integer): 2 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 108 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 4 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 108 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A dl3800 6 49 4 args: [1] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.10.0 (Integer): 2 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [2] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.2.0 (Integer): 1 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [3] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.3.1.11.0 (Integer): 49 1008163443 7 Wed Dec 12 08:24:03 2001 10.73.7.242 A [4] private.enterprises.digital-link.102.1.1.18.0 (Integer): 0 *********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, privileged, proprietary or otherwise protected by law. 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