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Subject: Re: MLM & SNMP
From: "James Shanks" <jshanks@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 09:22:40 -0500
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Maxine -

Tivoli Support has nothing to do with it.  "redbooks" are those 
publications from the IBM International Support Organization  (ITSO). They 
cover a lot more than just Tivoli.  They are technical how-to manuals, 
highly-prized by IBM field personnel and customers alike.  Go to 
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
 





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Hi,

Where is it possible to find the Netview Redbook or the manual. i didn't
find the redbook SG24-4398-01 IBM Systems Monitor: Anatomy of a Smart 
Agent
on the Tivoli Knowlege Base neither manual.

Cordialement.

Maxime TRANNOY
IGS - Network Delivery Support Center
Tel : +33 (0) 492 114 767
mailto:mtrannoy@fr.ibm.com



  
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Yes, MLM was designed to offload polling, both status and data collection,
to something close to the source. It was originally designed as a systems
management tool (part of Systems Monitor/6000), back when there were
generally no more than 250 nodes on a subnet, and you were intended to
put one MLM on each subnet. That's why it is limited to discovering its
own subnet. But with the Smartset you can tell it to monitor what netmon
has discovered.

Keep this in mind: the data collection and the thresolding functions are
different on MLM than they are on Netview. The traps are different, and 
the
formats of the  collected data are different, due to their heritage. There
is a utility to convert MLM-collected data to the snmpCollect format, so
you can then use some of the Netview facilities on it. If you are planning
actions based on the threshold events, check them carefully in Options..
Event Configuration. The MLM data collection and thresholding offers
a richer set of functions than does snmpCollect, and as a result it is
trickier to configure. Read the online help carefully, as well as the
manual which is offered online.

There is a good redbook, still available and still applicable:
SG24-4398-01 IBM Systems Monitor: Anatomy of a Smart Agent
from February 1996.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit



                    Maxime

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HI everyone,

I have just seen that the MLM can not only ping what he has in his Network
bu also what we put in his smartset.
More than the status monitoring i want  my MLM to do the SNMP monitoring.
I have seen with a sniffer that for the moment all the SNMP traffic is
between the devices and The Netview but  can i offload this work from
Netview to the MLM? So it can reduce even more my WAN traffic

Cordialement.

Maxime TRANNOY
IGS - Network Delivery Support Center
Tel : +33 (0) 492 114 767
mailto:mtrannoy@fr.ibm.com


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Maxine -

Tivoli Support has nothing to do with it.  "redbooks" are those publications from the IBM International Support Organization  (ITSO).  They cover a lot more than just Tivoli.  They are technical how-to manuals,  highly-prized by IBM field personnel and customers alike.  Go to  
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group




Maxime TRANNOY/France/Contr/IBM@IBMFR
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Hi,

Where is it possible to find the Netview Redbook or the manual. i didn't
find the redbook SG24-4398-01 IBM Systems Monitor: Anatomy of a Smart Agent
on the Tivoli Knowlege Base neither manual.

Cordialement.

Maxime TRANNOY
IGS - Network Delivery Support Center
Tel : +33 (0) 492 114 767
mailto:mtrannoy@fr.ibm.com



                                                                                                                 
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Yes, MLM was designed to offload polling, both status and data collection,
to something close to the source. It was originally designed as a systems
management tool (part of Systems Monitor/6000), back when there were
generally no more than 250 nodes on a subnet, and you were intended to
put one MLM on each subnet. That's why it is limited to discovering its
own subnet. But with the Smartset you can tell it to monitor what netmon
has discovered.

Keep this in mind: the data collection and the thresolding functions are
different on MLM than they are on Netview. The traps are different, and the
formats of the  collected data are different, due to their heritage. There
is a utility to convert MLM-collected data to the snmpCollect format, so
you can then use some of the Netview facilities on it. If you are planning
actions based on the threshold events, check them carefully in Options..
Event Configuration. The MLM data collection and thresholding offers
a richer set of functions than does snmpCollect, and as a result it is
trickier to configure. Read the online help carefully, as well as the
manual which is offered online.

There is a good redbook, still available and still applicable:
SG24-4398-01 IBM Systems Monitor: Anatomy of a Smart Agent
from February 1996.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit



                   Maxime

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HI everyone,

I have just seen that the MLM can not only ping what he has in his Network
bu also what we put in his smartset.
More than the status monitoring i want  my MLM to do the SNMP monitoring.
I have seen with a sniffer that for the moment all the SNMP traffic is
between the devices and The Netview but  can i offload this work from
Netview to the MLM? So it can reduce even more my WAN traffic

Cordialement.

Maxime TRANNOY
IGS - Network Delivery Support Center
Tel : +33 (0) 492 114 767
mailto:mtrannoy@fr.ibm.com


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