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Subject: RE: [nv-l] Netview
From: "Allison, Jason (JALLISON)" <JALLISON@arinc.com>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:50:55 -0400
-- having two ip addresses resolve to the same name
What Network Manager would ever allow that ;) ?

Jason Allison
Principal Engineer
ARINC Incorporated
Office:  (410) 266-2006
FAX:  (410) 573-3026


-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie Clark [mailto:lclark@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:48 AM
To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Netview


You can make it think something is a router just by having two ip addresses
resolve to the same name, no snmp required. It will draw the diamond. I've
always assumed it was a more-or-less unintentional by-product of the
code required to support the loadhost function that lets you define
gateways the same way. In Netview for NT, there is a special character
used to indicate dhcp address ranges in the seedfile. This character
was used for another, more useful purpose in Unix, and resolving the two
functions is now problemmatic. My suspicion, no special knowledge.

As I always exclude dhcp address ranges from discovery, I have
managed to avoid this being a problem.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit


 

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The plot thickens...

Not that it applies to me, but I would be interested to hear about the
outcome of this issue.  It is still difficult for me to believe that NETMON
is somehow thinking those hosts are routers.  I wonder what is triggering
it?

Weird...I am sure it is a M$ problem.

Jason Allison
Principal Engineer
ARINC Incorporated
Office:  (410) 266-2006
FAX:  (410) 573-3026


-----Original Message-----
From: Barr, Scott [mailto:Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:28 PM
To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Netview


Thats not entirely true. Windows DHCP machines if discovered will exhibit
this behavior when they do not have forwarding turned on or even have two
interfaces. I have an enhancement request to support discovery of devices
with this behavior pending. This comment is for Unix only by the way.

If the DHCP workstation is managed, and his IP address changes, NETMON will
add an additional interface and treat the device as a router. One interface
will be down, the other will be up. Packet forwarding was turned off in all
cases of this behavior. The PMR I have opened on this has already rolled
off
history, maybe someone in support (ARE YOU LISTENING PAUL!) can find it. We
discovered this because we attempted to run with all over our nodes managed
(and I do mean all, including 1500+ Windows DHCP workstations). We kept
having workstation icons promoted to routers and moved to top level map.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:jshanks@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 6:36 AM
To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: Re: [nv-l] Netview


By definition, any device with at least two interface cards in different
networks, which also has IP forwarding turned on, is a router.  That's what
NetView is telling you.  You can turn off IP forwarding on that box and it
will no longer be a router, but you will probably have to delete and
rediscover it to get the map re-drawn.  Or you can leave it one and
understand that it is NetView which is correct about what is, and what is
not, a router.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group






                      Fission CC

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                      05/13/02 12:05 AM








Dear all,
   The Netview will recognize some servers (two interface cards) as routers
but actually not. Why ? In what situation that Netview will recognize
something as routers ? for example multiple interface cards ? or any
others?  How could I reset them to ordinary servers?   Please help,
thanks...

Best Regards,
Fission Lin, 林倩全
I / T Specialist  , Tivoli Professional Services,
ITS/SMBU/NSM,  IBM Taiwan
206, Sec.1 Keelung Rd, Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Tel:886-2-2725-8872, Mobile:0935-558622
E-Mail: flin@tw.ibm.com


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