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Re: [nv-l] experimental OID

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Subject: Re: [nv-l] experimental OID
From: Leslie Clark <lclark@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:46:50 -0500



I'm getting this stuff, too, from Cisco's Aironet access points and
wireless bridges.
In addition to the oid discussed below, I'm seeing an enterprise of 0.0 in
traps.
I believe these were an aquisition, and they have gone so far as to change
the
snmp sysObject ID over to Cisco numbers. Now they really need to  make the
traps
and trap varbinds manageable. I will be sending the hardware boys to bug
Cisco.
Cisco generally gets around to cleaning up their SNMP agents after a
release or two,
but pressure can't hurt.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit



                                                                                
                                                 
                      Bill Evans                                                
                                                 
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Searching the Internet gives a few answers.  According to the IANA listing
the interpretation is
      1.3.6.1.3.109  is an  HDSL2-SHDSL MIB  registered by
       Mike Sneed, <Mike.Sneed@go.ecitele.com> in January 2001.
Mike Sneed is the chair of the Internet Engineering Task Force working
group for the topic.

I did a search on the acronyms and apparently it's High Bit-rate DSL and
Multirate HDSL2 equipment still mostly in development.

Patton Electronics (www.patton.com) (and others?) evidently has such a
device on the market.

http://www.simpleweb.org/ietf/rfcs/rfcbymodule.html has a list of RFCs/MIBs
which may help since the site  includes RFC3276 which covers HDSL2-SHDSL.

Someday we'll all catch up with you but at the moment you seem to be on the
edge of technology with whatever device is sending this trap.

I  don't do any better than James at tracking the experimental side of the
house.Over the past two decades I have seen a few instances of experimental
MIBs which have "escaped" from the labs into production environments but
it's rare that this happens.    There are only 121 entries in the list of
experimental MIBs compared to 15,000+ in the private leg of the tree.  25
or so of those (like Ethernet) have been moved to the MIB2 or private
branches.

Bill Evans

James Shanks wrote:
      Well, if you got this as part of trap, then the sender is running
      some
      interesting software or hardware, because
      1.3.6.1.3   =  iso(1) org(3) dod(6) internet(1) experimental(3)

      That's all I can offer because I don't keep up with the experimental
      stuff. Theoretically this should NOT be coming from a commercially
      available device or agent.  They are supposed to send their
      proprietary
      stuff under their commercial vendor id.  Or are you working in a
      university or research environment?
      In any case, trapd will tell you who sent it and you can discuss with
      the
      box owner what he's running on it.  I'd guess it has a MIB which you
      can
      try to obtain, once you find out the source.

      James Shanks
      Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
      Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group




      "Mohammad Refaie" <refaie@menanet.net>
      12/30/2002 03:30 AM


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              Subject:        [nv-l] expeimental OID



      i can't find the definition for the OID 1.3.6.1.3.109.0.6 that i
      found as a trap
      could there be any place to find the translation of this OID

      Regards,
      Mohammad Refaie Ahmad
      Tivoli & Network Engineer
      Network Operation Center
      Nile Online
      15 Mohammad Hafez st,.
      Mohamndesein, Giza, Egypt.
      Tel.: (202) 760 66 77 Ext.: 770
      Fax: (202) 760 7656
      E-Mail: mrefaie@nile-online.net



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