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RE: [nv-l] SNMP monitoring anomaly

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] SNMP monitoring anomaly
From: "Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:26:45 -0500
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Bill, I remember discussing behavior like this with support - I think we ended up thinking it was a problem with NATing the NetView server. Are you NAT'd? If so, (and I can't remember the details) some of the headers don't bear the translated address, or they do, whichever causes the problem. Sorry I'm fuzzy but CNAT was recommended for this. I use SNMP only for status polls, so I don't seem to have this issue with either of the devices you mention.


From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On Behalf Of Evans, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:08 PM
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Subject: RE: [nv-l] SNMP monitoring anomaly

NV 7.1.3.0 on Solaris 2.8.  Yes, I'm a bit behind.

Our system has a number of firewalls which will only respond to a ping on the NetView facing interface.  I do have ACLs set which will allow the NetView machine to manage the firewalls using SNMP.  The boxes in question are mostly Cisco PIX and Cisco VPN 3000 plus a couple Nokia boxes supplied by a services vendor.  Regardless they all behave the same. 

The netmon.seed file is set for monitoring on all our core routers and the firewalls using SNMP.  The routers will allow ICMP to query all interfaces but firewalls will allow ICMP only to inward facing interfaces. 

The problem which has occurred a couple times is that NetView seems to forget it's supposed to use SNMP on the firewalls.  The symptoms:

·       I can browse the boxes using SNMP
·       Demand poll displays the Admin/Op status of the interfaces
·       NetView will only show the inward facing interfaces for firewalls as normal and all outward facing interfaces as down.

·       Quick Test will not find the true state of the outward facing interfaces on the firewalls.
·       The routers show no changes in behavior.
·       Functional operation of the firewalls continued without interruption.

In the heat of the incident last evening I tried to restart NetView (shutdown the X-console and issue OVSTOP then OVSTART and netview -dconsole) and see if it helped.  It did not.  I acknowledged the outward facing interfaces and planned to investigate further this morning. 

The event log shows that normal SNMP monitoring of the firewalls resumed about five minutes after I went home.  This was about twenty minutes after restarting NetView and ten minutes after acknowledging the interfaces.

Can anyone propose an explanation of what happened?  Is there a patch addressing anything like this?  Anyone else experienced it?  Could this similar to the November 2000 problem in the archives where SNMP timeouts may have caused different community names to be tried? 

As the King said to Anna, "Is a puzzlement!"

Bill Evans

Tivoli NetView Support for DOE

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