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From: Thierry Van Mol <thierry.van-mol@CIEV.VD.CH>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 09:16:00 +0100
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During point 6, the popup tells you the object already exists and asks you
to confirm to add another symbol for the same object, right? If yes, then I
think that you got indeed another symbol for the same object, contrary to
what James suggest.

If this is the case, it still doesn't explain your problem, but I wanted to say
that it is in fact possible using the manual add to in fact add only a symbol
and not always symbol and object. At least I am sure of this for connections,
because I do it often. The GUI doesn't allow you to copy and paste a
connection, so
what I do is simply add a connection and give exactly the same Selection Name
than
another connection. Then Netview gives me a popup warning me there is already an
object with the same Selection Name, and if  confirm, I got just another symbol
for the
object. But in my case, the status is always the same for the 2 symbols.


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If you examine your blue and green symbols, I think you'll see why this
didn't work.  Right click on the icon and select "Tools" and then "Describe
object".  I think you'll see that the symbols represent different objects
in the database.  That's why you never see any updates.  netmon is updating
the original and not this duplicate you made with "Add".

The only easy way out of this problem that I know of is to have planned for
it in advance by doing a tar of /usr/OV/databases/openview  before you cut
and paste so you can restore.    The problem with "Delete" is that it is so
final.  Nothing is saved anywhere. And "Add" means "add a new object to the
database" not just "add a new symbol to the map".  I tried an experiment
with ovmapcount  and ovtopofix and I was not able to get my deleted symbol
put back either.  I'm afraid that  your only choice now, so far as I can
tell, is delete and re-discover.

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support


greg_padden@INS.COM on 06/15/98 12:12:07 PM

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Subject:  Symbol deletion and manual adding question





I've got a basic how-to question:

1. I've got two maps.
2. Each map has a symbol (let's call it router_A).
3. I delete router_A from one map.
4. I say "Oops, I didn't really mean to do that".
5. I manually add the symbol router_A.
6. During the manual add. A popup says that object already exists in the
database.
6. The symbol router_A is demand pollable.
7. The symbol NEVER changes from blue to green.


My Question:

Is it possible to get router_A on the map to ever turn from blue to green
without first deleting all the router_A symbols from all maps and then
doing the manual add?

Thanks for any help in advance...




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