Thierry, you are correct and I was mistaken.
The purpose of this append is to clarify my mistake to everyone who may be
listening.
It is possible to add just a symbol for an existing object and I was able
to do it myself. But it stayed blue until I did a demand poll on the
interfaces and the node, and that may have something to do with the problem
that prompted all this. That I do not know for sure. What I do know is
that my netmon was down when I deleted and re-added this symbol, and as you
pointed out, I had to do it very carefully to make sure that what I was
adding matched the existing object and was ipmap-capable. I checked the
object description after I was done and it matched but I could not get the
blue color to go away. It remained after ovtopofix as well. To get it to
go green, I had to restart netmon and later demand poll the objects. But
I was working on a very large database and it may be that in a smaller one
this woudl happen more quickly by itself.
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
thierry.van-mol@CIEV.VD.CH on 06/18/98 04:16:00 AM
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Subject: Ref. : Re: Symbol deletion and manual adding question
During point 6, the popup tells you the object already exists and asks you
to confirm to add another symbol for the same object, right? If yes, then I
think that you got indeed another symbol for the same object, contrary to
what James suggest.
If this is the case, it still doesn't explain your problem, but I wanted to
say that it is in fact possible using the manual add to in fact add only a
symbol and not always symbol and object. At least I am sure of this for
connections, because I do it often. The GUI doesn't allow you to copy and
paste a
connection, so
what I do is simply add a connection and give exactly the same Selection
Name
than
another connection. Then Netview gives me a popup warning me there is
already an object with the same Selection Name, and if confirm, I got just
another symbol
for the
object. But in my case, the status is always the same for the 2 symbols.
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If you examine your blue and green symbols, I think you'll see why this
didn't work. Right click on the icon and select "Tools" and then "Describe
object". I think you'll see that the symbols represent different objects
in the database. That's why you never see any updates. netmon is updating
the original and not this duplicate you made with "Add".
The only easy way out of this problem that I know of is to have planned for
it in advance by doing a tar of /usr/OV/databases/openview before you cut
and paste so you can restore. The problem with "Delete" is that it is so
final. Nothing is saved anywhere. And "Add" means "add a new object to the
database" not just "add a new symbol to the map". I tried an experiment
with ovmapcount and ovtopofix and I was not able to get my deleted symbol
put back either. I'm afraid that your only choice now, so far as I can
tell, is delete and re-discover.
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
greg_padden@INS.COM on 06/15/98 12:12:07 PM
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Subject: Symbol deletion and manual adding question
I've got a basic how-to question:
1. I've got two maps.
2. Each map has a symbol (let's call it router_A).
3. I delete router_A from one map.
4. I say "Oops, I didn't really mean to do that".
5. I manually add the symbol router_A.
6. During the manual add. A popup says that object already exists in the
database.
6. The symbol router_A is demand pollable.
7. The symbol NEVER changes from blue to green.
My Question:
Is it possible to get router_A on the map to ever turn from blue to green
without first deleting all the router_A symbols from all maps and then
doing the manual add?
Thanks for any help in advance...
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