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Re: NetView and HSRP

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Subject: Re: NetView and HSRP
From: "Houle, Stephen A" <sh32829@IMCNAM.SBI.COM>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:27:23 -0400
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
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We did all of the above (NV4.1, HSRP, and discover by loopbacks in seed
file) and all was working just fine.

Like you, we made sure "discover loopbacks" was on in the netmon
configuration, that the routers were discovered via loopbacks.  We also
specified subnet ranges to manage that didn't include any router interfaces
of any kind.  (I.E.  "10.2.95.1" in the seedfile for the router loopback,
and "10.3.95.11-254" for the subnet that router supported.)

The only glitch was duplicate IP address events for HSRP addresses after a
fail-over.  Not a huge problem, and quickly fixed.

We went to NV 5.0 right after U451880, so I can't say I suffered the same
problem you have.  But I can say it should be working like you want it to.
I'd take it to Tivoli support to fix or clarify.

Steve


> ----------
> From:         Maria Burke[SMTP:mburke@rpm.com]
> Reply To:     mburke@rpm.com
> Sent:         Monday, June 29, 1998 7:46 AM
> To:   'Houle, Stephen A'; NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> Subject:      RE: NetView and HSRP
>
> I appreciate the replies I have received and I can see that I may not have
> made myself clear. So, to clarify a few things:
>
> I have both an HSRP and a naming issue.
>
> I am using a seedfile which contains the loopbacks of the routers.
>
> In DNS, the loopback address is assigned the hostname of the router (e.g.,
> routera) and all of the interfaces on the router are assigned unique names
> (e.g., serial 0 would be routera-ser0, token ring 4 would be
> routera-tok4).
>
> Prior to installing the APAR, all of my routers would discover with the
> hostname of the loopback (routera).  The naming of the routers in NetView
> was working the way we wanted.  I still had an issue with HSRP address
> being
> added as a third router.
>
> After installing the APAR, almost all of my routers are discovering as
> though loopbacks do not exist (i.e., routera-ser0) and the HSRP address is
> discovering as a segment symbol.  I am still using the same DNS server as
> I
> used prior to the APAR install and I'm still discovering the same routers
> so
> I can't see this as being an error in DNS.
>
> Has anyone else running NetView 4.1 on AIX 4.2.1 with HSRP on their
> routers
> and discovering loopbacks seen this problem after installing APAR U456664?
>
> Again, thanks for all of your help!
>
> Maria
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Houle, Stephen A [mailto:sh32829@IMCNAM.SBI.COM]
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 6:06 PM
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> Subject: Re: NetView and HSRP
>
>
>
>
> Maria,
>
> It doesn't sound like you are using a seed file.  Or U456664 turned the
> seedfile off.
> You must be using a seedfile, since router loopbacks never show up in the
> arp or interface tables of other routers.
>
> Also, name conflicts, involving DNS, /etc/hosts, or both, can cause this.
> If an otherwise correctly discovered router has a loopback interface that
> sufferes  a name change to that of another router, Netview will sometimes
> move just that loopback to the other router.  That will cause the next
> interface in the interface list of that first router to become the
> selection
> name of the router, and the symbol name will change too.
>
> HSRP will only cause a problem only if a router gets discovered by an HSRP
> interface.  You should never let Netview discover routers by HSRP
> interfaces.
>
> Steve Houle
>
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Maria Burke[SMTP:mburke@rpm.com]
> > Reply To:     mburke@rpm.com
> > Sent:         Wednesday, June 24, 1998 11:19 AM
> > To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> > Subject:      NetView and HSRP
> >
> > We are running NetView 4.1 and Cisco's HSRP on our routers.  About a
> month
> > ago, I deleted the database and did a fresh discovery several times
> while
> > testing the use of loopbacks on the routers (NetView is configured to
> > discover loopbacks).  In DNS, the loopback is the hostname of the router
> > (and thereby the name I want as my selection name in NetView).  At this
> > time, I was discovering all of my routers correctly -- by loopback and
> > therefore by the correct hostname.  I've since applied APAR U456664 and
> > this
> > is no longer working; some of my routers discover by the loopback
> address
> > and some do not.  I can only assume the APAR caused this problem because
> I
> > had tested the use of loopbacks many times before this one final
> database
> > deletion.  Has anyone else experienced this problem or is there a
> > workaround
> > to managing HSRP in NetView?  I've seen emails about adding the routers
> to
> > a
> > host file but we prefer not to use a host file.  Any suggestions would
> be
> > appreciated.  Thanks!
> >
> > Maria Burke
> >
>

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