Let me rephrase my complaint. Change every reference to "PTF" to read
"Tivoli patch". The problem isn't that installp isn't used or isn't
possible on other OSs. The problem is that Tivoli isn't patching known
problems, it is upgrading to new versions where the problem may or may not
be fixed. I'm not interested in hearing that the PTF isn't possible on
Solaris or whatever. There is a "Install Patch" option on the Tivoli
desktop. I'm suggesting that the Tivoli Netview for Unix developers learn
to use it. It is used for framework patches, TEC patches, etc. Why not
Netview?
HSRP was documented in 5.0 as working. It didn't. Why wasn't a patch
released to fix it in 5.0? It wasn't fixed in v5.1 either, but there is a
patch to fix it. Why can't I have that patch for 5.0?
The Netview web access was documented as working in v5.0. It doesn't work
well. Why wasn't a patch released to fix it?
IBM used version numbers to refer to functionality of the product. It used
patch levels (PTFs) to make sure that functionality worked as advertised.
The only NEW functionality I've heard of in v5.1 to date doesn't rate a
change from 5.0 to 5.1.
I also understand that this isn't the correct forum to get this fixed. You
can believe that I will be bringing this up with out account reps, and I'll
forward this entire conversation to "netview@tivoli.com". Anyone reading
this that would like to see some sanity return to the situation can do the
same.
Steve
--
Steve Houle
Enterprise Management
Salomon Smith Barney
ph: (212) 723-3369
mailto:stephen.a.houle@ssmb.com
-----Original Message-----
From: James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM [mailto:James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 6:36 PM
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: PTFs for NetView (was Versions of Netview for UNIX -Reply
PTF is an IBM process which is restricted to IBM platforms. On AIX, it
uses installp.
Once NetView became a Tivoli product and is installed via the Tivoli
Framework (and not installp), PTFs became a thing of the past. You cannot
have PTFs on SUN, Digital UNIX, or NT. You can patches, but these will
never be as simple to maintain as PTFs because the patch mechanism is not
as sophisticated as installp and the ODM database in AIX on which it rests.
This has all been explained in this forum before and there is little use in
complaining about it now. I know many people find migration inconvenient
but that is not something we can do anything about at this time. Sorry.
Will there be patches to NetView in the future? Yes. Are there any now?
No.
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
Gil Irizarry <IRIZARRG@LABS.WYETH.COM> on 09/30/98 03:11:56 PM
Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc: (bcc: James Shanks)
Subject: Re: Versions of Netview for UNIX -Reply
Lets bring back the PTF fixes, after all this NOT MS software. right?
Gil
>>> "Houle, Stephen A" <sh32829@IMCNAM.SBI.COM> 09/29/98 05:23pm >>>
Is anyone else on this list bothered by Tivoli tying maintenance to product
enhancements?
We need HSRP support, which only works in an e-fix to NV 5.1. So now,
rather than a fix for my 5.0 system, I have to test a new version, and
schedule an upgrade to v5.1. This isn't a good thing, since I am required
to do far more testing for an upgrade than I am for a fix.
Is there anyone else that prefered the IBM PTF process? Or am I a mutant?
Steve
--
Steve Houle
Enterprise Management
Salomon Smith Barney
ph: (212) 723-3369
mailto:stephen.a.houle@ssmb.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark_Sklenarik@TIVOLI.COM [mailto:Mark_Sklenarik@TIVOLI.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 1:00 PM
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: Versions of Netview for UNIX
>Is the most current version actually 5.1?
YES
>Are there patches that can be added to v5.0?
NO, the maintenance for V5.0 is V5.1
>Were certain problems rectified in V5.1 or were there some special
enhancements.
Some of both!
I posted this a while back, here's the V5.1 listing again.
NetView Info Flash
**********************************************************************
******* Date: 8/17/98
******* Product and Revision: NetView 5.1 pre-release info
******* Abstract:
Below is a fairly detailed list of what new features
are found on NetView for distributed networks to give
the field a heads up on the product. Following the list
of features is an extensive list of defects that were
fixed with the associative APAR number next to them.
******* Brief:
NEW FEATURES
The following section describes all of the new capabilities,
functionality and enhancements found in this release of TME10 NetView.
Support for RS/6000 AIX 4.3
TME10 NetView V5R1 now runs and is supported on AIX 4.3.
Support for SUN Solaris 2.6
TME10 NetView V5R1 now runs and is supported on the SUN Solaris
operating system version 2.6.
Additional TME10 Framework Servers for Installation
TME10 NetView V5R1 may now be installed on TMR nodes from TMR Servers
on platforms other than those that execute TME10 NetView. In addition
to being able to install TME10 NetView from AIX, Digital UNIX, and SUN
Solaris platforms, it may also be installed on appropriate systems
from HPUX and Windows NT platforms running the TME10 Framework Server
software.
Heterogeneous Client/Server Configurations
TME10 NetView V5R1 now supports heterogeneous client/server
configurations between AIX and Solaris platforms. A TME10 NetView
V5R1 client may now be installed on a Solaris platform to interact
with a TME10 NetView V5R1 Server on an AIX platform, and vice versa.
Heterogeneous client/server configurations involving the Digital UNIX
and WindowsNT platforms remain unsupported.
Internet Explorer V4.0 Compatibility
In addition to allowing NetScape 4.0 to run a web client attached to a
TME10 NetView server, TME10 NetView V5R1 now allows the Internet
Explorer (version 4.0) browser to act as a web client.
Additional DynaText Support
TME10 NetView V5R1 now supports DynaText browser version 3.1.
In addition, a new script has been written to delete DynaText from a
TME10 NetView installation. It can be found in the /MUSTSEE directory
of the TME10 NetView CDROM or, if a recent version of TME10 Framework
has been installed, in the $BINDIR/bin directory.
Web/Vendor Integration
A series of enhancements have been made to the NetView Web Interface
to allow vendors and customers to more tightly integrate non-NetView
web interfaces.
Enhanced Web Security
The web client security has been integrated with NetView Server
security. Web operators will now log on using NetView userids and
passwords. All web users will be in the "web" group on the server.
Improved Performance for Web Client
The communications between the web client and the server have been
redesigned. The new design is much faster, uses far fewer server
resources, and is more robust.
The screen painting operations have been programmed to be much faster.
Screen updates for status changes have been optimized. This has
increased the number of icons that can be monitored on a given submap.
Detailed submaps have replaced the summary submap views.
Database Enhancements
Improvements have been made to the NetView Database Management code
(the NDBM component) to address performance improvements for the AIX
version of TME10 NetView.
New Submap Sorting Functionality
A new menu item has been added by which the symbols on a submap can be
sorted by one or more object properties. Select "Submap->Sort By" on
the NetView GUI to see a list of object properties that can be used
for the sort. For example, the symbols can be sorted by label, IP
Address, Status, and many others. This function can be used to
quickly find a particular node or see holes in the IP address ranges.
New nodes added to the submap will be placed in the correct location
based on the sorting option currently chosen. However, if sorting is
being done by status, the submap layout will not be redone everytime
the status of a node changes.In order to get status updates, the
Submap -> Sort by option must either be selected again, or the View ->
Redo Layout option must be selected. The same is true for
user-modified fields such as "Label".
Submap sorting is only available for bus and row/column submaps. It
is not available for read-only maps, or map snapshots.
New Status Filtering Functionality
A new menu item has been added by which symbols of a particular status
can be hidden on a submap. Select "View->Filter By Status" and toggle
the appropriate menu item to hide all of the symbols of that status
color. Toggle the menu item off to redisplay them. Note that this
function is not dynamic: a hidden symbol which changes status will
remain hidden, and visible symbols which change to a filtered status
remain displayed.
New Command nvsniffer
The new nvsniffer command (/usr/OV/bin/nvsniffer) traverses all
NetView managed nodes and searches for defined TCP services running on
well-known ports. The existence of these services are placed within
the NetView object database via boolean values.
New Command nvwakeup
The new nvwakeup command (/usr/OV/bin/nvwakeup) implements Wake-on-LAN
functionality in TME10 NetView. This tool can be used to wake a
machine up that is compliant with the "Magic Packet" specification for
wake-up nodes. This includes special software and hardware on the
target platform.
New Command nvdbimport
The new nvdbimport command (/usr/OV/bin/nvdbimport) is used to import
object field values into the NetView Object Database. It is targeted
at importing multiple field values for a large number of objects using
a batch methodology.
New Command nvdbformat
The new nvdbformat command (/usr/OV/bin/nvdbformat) is used to extract
object field values from the NetView database based upon a set of
selection rules. The output is in the form of a mail-merge model.
New Command ovwexit
The new ovwexit command (/usr/OV/bin/ovwexit) is used to exit the
NetView GUI from the command line. This feature only brings down the
GUI on the machine the GUI is executing on. Remote client GUIs are
not affected by this command.
New Command chmod_web_ovw
The new chmod_web_ovw command (/usr/OV/bin/chmod_web_ovw) is used to
give or block access to the maps. The syntax for the command is:
# chmod_web_ovw -a | -d
where:
-a Allow non-root user to start the GUI with web function on.
-d Allow only root user to start GUI with web function on (DEFAULT).
New Migration Tool chktrapd.con
The new chktrapd.con script (in the /MUSTSEE directory of the TME10
NetView CDROM , or in /usr/OV/install/tools with the name
checktrapdconf) can be executed by the user prior to migration to
check the trapd.conf file for any lines or sections that are too long
(having more than 99 fields). Executing this script gives users the
opportunity to correct the trapd.conf file prior to attempting to
migrate a previous TME10 NetView installation. The syntax for this
tool is:
# chktrapd.con <File-Name>
where <File-Name> is the full path name of the trapd.conf file to be
checked. If no file is given as an argument, the script prompts for
the file name. The errors found by the script are output to
/tmp/trapd.confchk.
Enhanced Interconnection with TME10 Enterprise Console
The OVW application daemon dispsub, which displays a submap based on a
request from the TME10 Enterprise Console (T/EC), has been enhanced.
When a user selects an event from T/EC and asks to see the
corresponding node in a NetView submap, a trap is sent to dispsub on
the configured NetView server. The dispsub daemon will then highlight
the appropriate symbol in the requested submap if it is being
displayed. If the requested submap is not being displayed, nothing
will be highlighted. If no specific submap is specified by the user,
then the symbol will be highlighted in each map currently being
displayed by the NetView server. If only one symbol exists for the
requested object, it will be highlighted. If multiple symbols exist,
dispsub will select the first of ipmap's symbols it finds to display.
If no ipmap symbol exists, it will simply choose the first symbol it
finds.
Year 2000 Compliancy
TME10 NetView V5R1 is Year 2000 compliant.
Log File Name Change
The name of the nv6000.log file can now be changed. The name and
location for this file can be modified via the TME10 desktop GUI
interface by selecting "Control" and then "Start User Interface". To
make a change, just overtype the name of the log file on the panel.
FIXED DEFECTS
Defects Fixed for TME10 NetView V5R1
The following is a list of the customer reported problems fixed in
this release of TME10 NetView.
IX69596 = WinSNMP APIs that do not work need to be documented.
IX69619 = Ruleset editor not highliting trap settings in KANJI.
IX70094 = Nvsecd memory leak of 32k with each login.
IX70413 = Trapgend dies when system VPD has manual entries.
IX70464 = Netmon core after U449573 with the latest netmon e-fix.
IX70548 = Netmon core.
IX70838 = Network object duplicated in object database.
IX71304 = NetView GUI crashes with fatal ovw and ipmap errors.
IX71578 = No status update occuring on fully-named collection items.
IX71755 = Large trap> 1024 bytes causes trapd to core.
IX71824 = Snmpselect uses high cpu.
IX71831 = APM fails if policy name same as target collection name.
IX71876 = Found a core while watching ipmap falling over.
IX71928 = Symbol colors/ip status mismatch.
IX71982 = Printtool cores when run in telnet session.
IX72229 = Large ruleset strings overrun pbuffer in objectsig.
IX72232 = Ovtopmd core at U450745 + ptf efix.
IX72506 = At PTF U450745 netview systems no longer limit discovery.
IX72672 = Gtmd manage/unmanage problem with U450745.
IX72720 = IP interface label changed back to default.
IX72913 = Ovmapcount does not clean up negative maps mgd field.
IX72979 = SYBASE prepsyblib message undefined symbol when loading.
IX73048 = Snmpcollect cores when unable to resolve target host name.
IX73066 = Traps to tivoli TEC are incorrect.
IX73134 = After PTF U449573, nvauth cannot change user password.
IX73135 = Gtm api call cores.
IX73195 = Getting an error in the gtm.trace.
IX73245 = DOC APAR - nmpolling man page update.
IX73259 = After mlm up netmon fails to stop polling mlm nodes.
IX73316 = Netmon core using 2nd fix.
IX73498 = Message: no configured event defined for enterprise.
IX73520 = Framework display error when using NetView functions.
IX73648 = NV 5 - NetView specific Frm. Patch can't be installed.
IX73661 = NetView icon created on non-installed managed node.
IX73789 = Correcting xnmsnmpconf core on Digital UNIX.
IX73920 = Mlm on NT distribution errors (map not updating).
IX73976 = The status icon color is not updated.
IX73985 = setthresh command does not accept hostnames with -.
IX73987 = Web client: ovw must be run by root to view maps.
IX73990 = Web Client: View graphics only working on root submap.
IX74163 = Extra netviewwebserver processes created with web client.
IX74410 = Ovtopmd core at PTF U451880.
IX74449 = Can't start ovtopmd with SQL=yes at PTF U451880.
IX74486 = Web client can't demand poll when server security on.
IX74495 = Ovtopmd core at NV V5 sun solaris.
IX74533 = Buffer overflow causes trapd to exit on signal 2.
IX74673 = Nvserverd cores on TEC trap.
IX75037 = Some submaps/objects randomly not displayed.
IX75167 = Netmon core at NV V5 GA w/ netmon efix.
IX75193 = Setdatabase field fails in ruleset.
IX75232 = SNMPAPI_CONTEXT_INVALID return with V2C agent.
IX75321 = Nvlockd crashes with very heavy network traffic.
IX75352 = /usr/OV/databases/snmpcollect/ file names wrong.
IX75354 = 2210 interface icons disappear.
IX75376 = Xnmloadmib cores when loading customer mib.
IX75379 = Ovsnmperr.h error in V4 appears to be from V3.
IX75396 = Wrong maps displayed when opening them thru SMIT.
IX75589 = Nodes in mlm manager submap remain blue.
IX75631 = db2 scripts not running at NV V5.
IX75720 = Security configuration script contains syntax errors.
IX75728 = Xnmmibload2 error with vendor mibs (such as 3com).
IX75806 = Ovtopmd core at AIX PTF U451880.
IX75917 = tralertdfc cores when started.
IX76070 = Trapd displays duplicate codepoint descriptions.
IX76072 = Smconvert -r provides incorrect output.
IX76074 = Error reporting invalid enumerator at startup.
IX76077 = Netmon sets incorrect trap destination on MLMs.
IX76094 = Ruleset with query database collection not working.
IX76102 = Netmon fails to obtain community name from coldb.pag
IX76198 = V4 to V5 migration corrupts xnmtrap security file.
IX76226 = Unable to create map snapshot on NetView V5.
IX76287 = Trapd.conf migration gets SEV_1_ERR_BCFG_081B error.
IX76478 = Collection with isCard=True displays incorrectly.
IX76490 = AIX/NV Fields only displaying numeric characters.
IX76493 = C5eui core dumps when exiting from NetView V5 eui.
IX76595 = Migrate install failed when NODES keyword in traps.
IX76654 = Web client cannot sign on to AIX 4,3 Web Server.
IX76659 = Gtm does not save its database at U451880.
IX76817 = Web Client hangs with loading symbols XX% pop-up.
IX76936 = IPMap cores when looking at nways java interface.
IX76949 = nvcorrd cores if hostname is larger than 256 bytes.
IX77394 = Ovmapcount -b produces confusing output.
IX77414 = File TME10.NetView.MIBInit appears in random places.
IX77424 = NVTurboDatabase clobbers mapdb object.
IX77425 = Web Client not displaying properly with MIB browser.
IX77438 = OVW hangs with a blank window.
IX77540 = Netmon polls hub interfaces only on MLM down event.
IX77608 = Printtool menu option and toolbar grayed out.
IX77619 = nvutil r operation takes 3+ minutes to complete.
IX77753 = FilterEd cores with 4.1.2.0 U451880.
IX77757 = Netmon dies with signal 11 during demand poll.
IX77790 = NVSECD_ADMIN core if userid filename> 11 chars.
IX77907 = Mib2Trap fails to set default severity for addtrap.
IX77919 = Memory leaks in pass-on-match/reset-on-match dnodes.
IX78081 = NVlockD is coring again.
IX78136 = NVS_ISCLIENTAUTHORIZED returns incorrect value.
IX78145 = Diagnostic ping does not show correct IP address.
IX78272 = Filter editor will not add from map in some cases.
IX78325 = reset_ci not giving correct nameserver name.
IX78419 = nv6000.log filled with "select failed" warnings.
IX78482 = Certain bitmaps not showing properly when compiled.
IX78567 = Environment variables set in /etc/netnmrc.pre lost.
IX78731 = V4 to V5 migration fails with SEV_2 ERR_BCFG_055.
IX78735 = /usr/OV/conf/snmpcolfiles get corrupted.
IX78744 = Compare mib variable fails w/o nvcdebug option on.
IX78778 = Priority option in NVPAGE different than documented.
IX78965 = Truncation happens to slot map definition in TEC.
IX79023 = When 'netmon -a 50' is run, no collections created.
IX79028 = MLM alias table not updated with APM collection.
IX79071 = nvlockd fails and gtmd no longer updates map.
IX79087 = NetView crash when closing submap window.
IX79167 = PRINTF in slot definition causes nvserverd core.
IX79182 = Status poll of large routers causes perf. problem.
IX79299 = OVsnmpFixPdu sometimes garbles community name.
IX79536 = Filter with enterprise ID> 80 freezes event window.
IX79654 = Problem w/ closedate in /usr/OV/bin/trapd.log_maint
******* Summary:
Utilize this info to help you and your field counterparts
to increase potential sales opportunities as well as ease
the worries of customers that are soon to migrate to the
new NetView 5.1.
******* Other Info:
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Vince Rosso <Vince_Rosso@TRANSALTA.COM> on 09/29/98 12:24:32 PM
Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc: (bcc: Mark Sklenarik)
Subject: Versions of Netview for UNIX
Vince Rosso@TRANSALTA
29/09/98 10:24 AM
We are currently running Netview v4.1, but our company had purchased v5.0
of Netview for UNIX some time back. For various reasons it hasn't yet been
implemented. Is the most current version actually 5.1? Are there
patches that can be added to v5.0? Were certain problems rectified in
V5.1 or were there some special enhancements. Thanks in advance!
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