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Re: discovering a change in ip address??

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Subject: Re: discovering a change in ip address??
From: James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:58:09 -0400
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
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Now I am really confused.

I thought you said (1) that you had a lot of changes in which ip addresses
were re-assigned from one object to another and that (2) you had tried to
delete those objects from the map using the GUI and this had not worked.
So people suggested you delete the entire topology and start over because
that is an easy way out.

You can delete a single object from the map and the database using the GUI.
You open the map, find the object, select it, pull down the Edit menu and
select Cut ... From all  submaps.  If you have more than 1 map you will
have to open each of them in turn and do the same thing.  This should
delete the object from the map and from the database.  You can verify this
with ovobjprint -s <hostname>.   We do this all the time.   In the Admin
Guide it is covered in the section called "Deleting Objects and Symbols".

Unfortunately in the opinion of many, this is a GUI operation.  Since
NetView has three interconnected databases (object, topology, and map) you
have to clean them all up simultaneously, and if you have interfaces
associated, these must be removed, as well as any networks which depend on
them.  Thus ipmap does the job.  ovw tells him what you have selected on
the map and he reads the various databases and removes what is required.
There is no one single command to manipulate all three databases and delete
an object.

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



Matt Ashfield <mda@UNB.CA> on 05/11/99 01:35:27 PM

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I suppose destroying the maps wouldn't be a terrible fatality. I just
thought there had to be an easier way to delete a single object not only
fromt the maps but from the database as well.

Cheers

Matt
mda@unb.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Owens, Blaine C <bowens@eastman.com>
To: NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu <NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: discovering a change in ip address??


>Yes, it will. Sorry, thought you were wanting to start from scratch. On
the
>other hand it is usually not too bad even if you have done some
>customization to the maps (locations, etc.). We have done it several times
>here after major network changes.
>
>Blaine Owens
>Eastman Chemical Company
>Email - bowens@eastman.com
>Phone - (423)229-3579
>Fax     - (423)229-1188
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt Ashfield [SMTP:mda@unb.ca]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 12:58 PM
>> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
>> Subject:      Re: discovering a change in ip address??
>>
>> Won't this destroy all my maps?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Owens, Blaine C <bowens@eastman.com>
>> To: NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu <NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 11:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: discovering a change in ip address??
>>
>>
>> >I see you are on AIX. You may use smit (or smitty) Communications -->
TME
>> 10
>> >NetView --> Maintain --> Clear databases --> Clear topology database
>> >(completely). Thus will shut down daemons and any EUI's until
completed.
>> >When you restart the EUI the topolgy will be rediscovered from scratch.
>> >
>> >Blaine Owens
>> >Eastman Chemical Company
>> >Email - bowens@eastman.com
>> >Phone - (423)229-3579
>> >Fax     - (423)229-1188
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Matt Ashfield [SMTP:mda@unb.ca]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 8:40 AM
>> >> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
>> >> Subject:      Re: discovering a change in ip address??
>> >>
>> >> Sounds about right. How do I do it?
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >> mda@unb.ca
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Todd E. Lewis <telewis@providentbankmd.com>
>> >> To: NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu <NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu>
>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 9:34 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: discovering a change in ip address??
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if you may have to dump your discovery database and
>> re-discover
>> >> your network ip changes.
>> >>
>> >> >>> Matt Ashfield <mda@UNB.CA> 05/11 8:21 AM >>>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Recently a bunch of our servers changed ip addresses. Their new
>> addresses
>> >> are in a different subnet. These new addresses used to belong to
other
>> >> machines that were taken out of service at the same time the servers
>> >> assumed
>> >> their ip addresses. I have tried to discover the servers at the new
>> >> address,
>> >> but when I do a demand poll at the server address I get the message
>> that
>> a
>> >> node already exists in the database for that name. I've deleted the
>> >> server's
>> >> objects at their old ip address? Shouldn't that have deleted them
from
>> the
>> >> database as well?
>> >>
>> >> Any help would be appreciated!
>> >>
>> >> PS. Using Netview 5.1.1, AIX4.3.2
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Matt
>> >> mda@unb.ca
>> >
>

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