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Re: no connections

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Subject: Re: no connections
From: OGrant <OGrant@PEC.COM>
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:14:46 -0400
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Sender: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Leslie - can you clarify the note below?  That is, in our current
configuration (Netview 5.1 *for NT* over frame relay), our routers show
frame relay virtual circuits as ip unnumbered interfaces (a correct
representation, I suppose, based on the router configuration info), but we
don't have the ability to actually monitor the state of the frame relay
circuit via Netview - one of our bigget gripes.  So how far does Netview 5.x
(particularly for NT) support frame relay?  Tx,

Oliver Grant
Performance Engineering Corp.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Clark [SMTP:lclark@US.IBM.COM]
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 10:04 PM
> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> Subject:      Re: no connections
>
> Well, officially, Netview V4 does not support Frame Relay. If you were to
> call support, they would say go to V5. I say the same.  I found that
> usually if it is a plain point-to-point, Netview V4 would usually draw it,
> but for the subinterfaces and all you need to get to V5. And in V5 you
> also get the ability to have networks represented by a special symbol
> for Frame - a little bonus. So come on in, the water is fine!!
>
> Cordially,
>
> Leslie A. Clark
> IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
>
>
> Hello Leslie,
> First of all i run the locate route and i always reach the routers
> directly.
>
> there are no other nodes inbitween.
> Our routers are Cisco's 2500 and 1600 running Ios v12.04.
> there are 2 f/r lines and 1 point to point (HDLC).
> As i understand the problem the objects exist but cann't be viewed on the
> map - i dont know why but when i try to add the connection manually i
> always
> keep getting the massege " Objects already exist ..selection name should
> be..."
> I deleted those objects once to create a new map ( with a seed file)
> i run the ovtopofix command but maby it didnt delete it.
> How can i for sure delete an object and let netview discover it properly?
> Greetings ,Oren
> P.S: i'm running netview ver. 4 on AIX v4.1.
>
> Leslie Clark wrote:
>
> > Oren, there can be a number of reasons why Netview will
> > not draw the connections between routers, and most of them
> > boil down the the agent on the routers failing to provide the
> > necessary (RFC-compliant, standard) information about those
> > interfaces. Tell us more: What kind of routers are they, what
> > level of code are they running, what kind of interfaces are they?
> > What level of Netview are you running, and what options have
> > you turned on for netmon? Are you sure there are no missing
> > nodes between the disconnected routers? Try Test....Locate
> > Route via SNMP to see what the path should be. If you are
> > on V4, you will have some trouble with Frame Relay. If they
> > are Cisco frame relay below 11.2, you also will have trouble.
> > If they are Bay using circuitless IP, they also cannot be connected.
> >
> > Your 'fake' connection is probably being reset  to the 'real'
> > arrangement by netmon during its daily configuration poll.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Leslie A. Clark
> > IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I'm having a strange problem with my nv6k ( v4) map.
> > All the lateset routers which i have connected to our net are discovered
> >
> > without a line connection to the main router . Once i manually add this
> > line ( of course with the exac ip map definitions) the line is added but
> > disapear after a day or 2, and further more if i try to add another line
> >
> > the first one disapear...
> > I have 4 routers with this problem .
> > any ideas ?
> > Greetings, Oren.

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