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Re: Client verses running X

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Subject: Re: Client verses running X
From: Bill Painter <william.t.painter@LMCO.COM>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:12:20 -0400
Thanks, thats somthing we did not think about!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ken Karasek <KGKARASE@HEWITT.COM>
    To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
    Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:09 PM
    Subject: Re: Client verses running X


    Bill, keep in mind that if your going to run third party apps that
    integrate with NV , make sure the vendor supports a client/server
    configuration. Through the years, I have found that most do not. I chose
    to
    run a client/server configuration to save on the server resources and
    network traffic, but the down side was that the third party apps outside
    of
    Optivity, did not write the client code nor did they intend to. The
    result
    is that when you drill into a network where the server has changed the
    device icons to match that of the vendor, errors will appear for each
    device in that network. So say you have 20 switches with in a subnet,
    you
    will have to reply to 20 error messages and the end result will display
    generic icons on the client. There are ways to alleviate this problem,
    but
    it is quite administrative to maintain, you better know what you doing,
    and
    you will not receive any support. Hence, I have migrated back to having
    X-sessions established on my RS/6000 SMP J50.






    From: James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> on 09/29/99 11:54 AM

    Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
          NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>

    To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
    cc:
    Client:
    Subject:  Re: Client verses running X






    Using telnet puts a 32 - 48 Meg RAM requirement on your server for each
    additional user of the NetView GUI, depending on the release level and
    functions
    used.  This is what is offloaded to the NetView client - you are
    shifting
    that
    RAM requirement to another box.


    James Shanks
    Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



    Bill Painter <william.t.painter@LMCO.COM> on 09/27/99 11:52:14 PM

    Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
    NetView
          <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>

    To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
    cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
    Subject:  Client verses running X




    What are the differences between running a client and running X back to
    your
    Display?  Does it make for less resource use on the server?

    Any comments?

    Thanks,
    Bill Painter




Thanks, thats somthing we did not think about!
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Karasek <KGKARASE@HEWITT.COM>
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Client verses running X

Bill, keep in mind that if your going to run third party apps that
integrate with NV , make sure the vendor supports a client/server
configuration. Through the years, I have found that most do not. I chose
to
run a client/server configuration to save on the server resources and
network traffic, but the down side was that the third party apps outside
of
Optivity, did not write the client code nor did they intend to. The
result
is that when you drill into a network where the server has changed the
device icons to match that of the vendor, errors will appear for each
device in that network. So say you have 20 switches with in a subnet,
you
will have to reply to 20 error messages and the end result will display
generic icons on the client. There are ways to alleviate this problem,
but
it is quite administrative to maintain, you better know what you doing,
and
you will not receive any support. Hence, I have migrated back to having
X-sessions established on my RS/6000 SMP J50.






From: James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> on 09/29/99 11:54 AM

Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
      NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>

To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc:
Client:
Subject:  Re: Client verses running X






Using telnet puts a 32 - 48 Meg RAM requirement on your server for each
additional user of the NetView GUI, depending on the release level and
functions
used.  This is what is offloaded to the NetView client - you are
shifting
that
RAM requirement to another box.


James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



Bill Painter <william.t.painter@LMCO.COM> on 09/27/99 11:52:14 PM

Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
NetView
      <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>

To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject:  Client verses running X




What are the differences between running a client and running X back to
your
Display?  Does it make for less resource use on the server?

Any comments?

Thanks,
Bill Painter



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