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Re: Ruleset - refreshing

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Subject: Re: Ruleset - refreshing
From: lclark@us.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:42:21 -0400

It is a good habit to refresh, or to save, exit, and reopen just to check.
seen cases where I had goofed connecting nodes, and made little loops
in the ruleset that were not visible until it was redrawn.

Another funny thing I saw this week: your X emulator if you are using one
can fool you. The frame around the window does not always accurately
the name of the ruleset I am working on. This could lead to mental
as well as to the editing of the wrong ruleset. Wierd, but not a Netview


Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking

James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM@tkg.com on 08/02/2000 09:14:01 AM

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Subject:  Re: [NV-L] Ruleset - refreshing

Hmmm.  I don't know exactly why you had this problem, but the ruleset
editor GUI
is an X-application, and as such it can take awhile to update.  I have seen
cases where people have made changes to complex rulesets accidentally and
exited before the GUI could catch up and re-draw what they had done, and so
course, their changes were saved unwittingly.  But for six nodes, I am
as to how this could occur.  However, there is an easy way to avoid the
Just pull down the "Edit" menu and select "Refresh layout"  before you
exit.  On
the refresh, the file and the GUI are synched, so what you see before you
is what you get.

You might also notice that the way the thing works under the covers is that
you start your edit session of an existing rule, it makes a backup copy of
ruleset "xxxx.rs.BAK"  and also a temp copy "xxxx.rs.<random_chars>".   The
temp copy is, or should be, erased, if you save your changes and exit the
normally.  If you cancel the edit session it stays around, just filling up
directory.   On the next edit, the old BAK file is removed and the current
rs is
used to make a new one.  If that didn't happen, or if someone played
games after the last edit, you could get your old version back.  Just a

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
 Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT

"Gavin Newman" <NEWMANGJ@stgeorge.com.au> on 08/02/2000 02:43:11 AM

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Subject:  [NV-L] Ruleset - refreshing

Re my previous posting whereby changed rules were not being used in a

I looked at the rule file in /usr/OV/conf/rulesets and noticed that the
that I had deleted using the GUI is still there event though it is not on
GUI display! This is a simple test rule with only 6 elements so I know it
is not
hidden off the screen.

If I make changes to the contents of one of the existing rules they are
reflected in the dataset but I cant work out how to get rid of this
action node from the file given that it is not on the GUI.

Can I delete it manually? Why was it not deleted when I deleted it from the

Cheers - Gavin

PS : I just noticed that if I close the GUI & reopen it the rule now
the deleted action ode that wasn't there before but was in the rule on
then deleted it through the GUI and it worked properly this time. Is there
problem with the rule editor GUI here?

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