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Re: Ruleset - refreshing

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Subject: Re: Ruleset - refreshing
From: James_Shanks@tivoli.com
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:14:01 -0400

Hmmm.  I don't know exactly why you had this problem, but the ruleset editor GUI
is an X-application, and as such it can take awhile to update.  I have seen
cases where people have made changes to complex rulesets accidentally and then
exited before the GUI could catch up and re-draw what they had done, and so of
course, their changes were saved unwittingly.  But for six nodes, I am mystified
as to how this could occur.  However, there is an easy way to avoid the problem.
Just pull down the "Edit" menu and select "Refresh layout"  before you exit.  On
the refresh, the file and the GUI are synched, so what you see before you leave
is what you get.

You might also notice that the way the thing works under the covers is that when
you start your edit session of an existing rule, it makes a backup copy of the
ruleset "xxxx.rs.BAK"  and also a temp copy "xxxx.rs.<random_chars>".   The
temp copy is, or should be, erased, if you save your changes and exit the GUI
normally.  If you cancel the edit session it stays around, just filling up the
directory.   On the next edit, the old BAK file is removed and the current rs is
used to make a new one.  If that didn't happen, or if someone played re-name
games after the last edit, you could get your old version back.  Just a thought.

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
 Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT

"Gavin Newman" <NEWMANGJ@stgeorge.com.au> on 08/02/2000 02:43:11 AM

Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>

To:   nv-l@tkg.com
cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject:  [NV-L] Ruleset - refreshing

Re my previous posting whereby changed rules were not being used in a dynamic

I looked at the rule file in /usr/OV/conf/rulesets and noticed that the action
that I had deleted using the GUI is still there event though it is not on the
GUI display! This is a simple test rule with only 6 elements so I know it is not
hidden off the screen.

If I make changes to the contents of one of the existing rules they are
reflected in the dataset but I cant work out how to get rid of this recalcitrant
action node from the file given that it is not on the GUI.

Can I delete it manually? Why was it not deleted when I deleted it from the GUI?

Cheers - Gavin

PS : I just noticed that if I close the GUI & reopen it the rule now contains
the deleted action ode that wasn't there before but was in the rule on DASD. I
then deleted it through the GUI and it worked properly this time. Is there some
problem with the rule editor GUI here?

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