Well, I don't want to step on any toes, but what good reason could there
possibly be for doing this? The ENTERPRISES label is called that because
1.3.6.1.4.1 is the enterprises branch of the iso OID tree. "1.3.6.1.4.1"
is the numeric equivalent of "iso.org.dod.internet.private.enterprises",
that's what it means, so it makes good sense that it would be called
ENTERPRISES in trapd. That's the id under which all the default SNMP traps
occur and an id like that has to be present in trapd in case someone
actually sends a completely generic trap or no other match can be made. If
the customer is trying to use his OID, then he should use the name that it
was registered under with IANA. For example, if 1783 is "activeworks",
then that or something like it is what he should use. Why wouldn't you?
Will we support you deleting 1.3.6.1.4.1 so that you can call "activeworks"
"Enterprises"? No, we won't. We'd have to chnage default code inside
trapd. So you will just have to pick something else. Why not
"Activeworks_Enterprises"?
James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Montoya Vincent-O10501 <Vincent.Montoya@motorola.com>@tkg.com on 03/12/2001
11:42:00 AM
Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
Sent by: owner-nv-l@tkg.com
To: nv-l@tkg.com
cc:
Subject: [NV-L] ENTERPRISES 1.3.6.1.4.1
All,
Simple question. Is the label ENTERPRISES along with 1.3.6.4.1 reserved? I
have a customer who wants to use the ENTERPRISES label along with his OID
1.3.6.1.4.1.1783.1.1 (activeworks). The delima is that we already have
ENTERPRISES 1.3.6.4.1 which I believe came default when we loaded NetView
and NetView does not allow us to add a duplicate ENTERPRISES label. In
addition, I was told the label ENTERPRISES and its OID 1.3.6.4.1 is
reserved. Can anybody clear up our confusion.
Thanks,
Vince
-----Original Message-----
From: Nitin Sahasra [mailto:nitin@webmethods.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:48 PM
To: 'Montoya Vincent-O10501'
Cc: Mike Danley \(E-mail\); Russ Kuhn \(E-mail\)
Subject: RE: SNMP ENTERPRISES 1.3.6.1.4.1.1783.1.1
Vince,
Our OID labels are as per the RFC 1215. I haven't read the RFC, but is
there anything mentioned in the standard that prevents us from using the
label ENTERPRISES? Are you sure this is not a NetView configuration issue?
Thanks
**********************
Nitin Sahasra
Global Technical Account Manager
Professional Services
webMethods
(630) 728-2826
nitin@webmethods.com
**********************
-----Original Message-----
From: Montoya Vincent-O10501 [mailto:Vincent.Montoya@motorola.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:16 PM
To: 'nitin@webmethods.com'
Subject: RE: SNMP ENTERPRISES 1.3.6.1.4.1.1783.1.1
Nitin Sahasra,
As you may see we are very new to SNMP and there standards. Let us see if
we
can work this out.
I can see that you followed the ISO standards in getting your OID but
there
is also a label associated with each of the OIDs
e.g
LABEL OID
frame-relay 1.3.6.2.1.10.32
rmon 1.3.6.2.1.16
ibm5086 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.6
ENTERPRISES 1.3.6.1.4.1
ENTERPRISES is a reserved label and NetView does not allow us to add the
same Label with your OID. So, what we need is a unique label which is
associated with your oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.1783.1.1
I do not mean to sound patronizing but because we are all relatively new to
SNMP and NetView I needed to be as explicit as possible.
Thanks,
Vince
-----Original Message-----
From: Kuhn Russ-xopr112
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:59 PM
To: Montoya Vincent-O10501
Cc: Danley Mike-xopr43
Subject: FW: SNMP ENTERPRISES 1.3.6.1.4.1.1783.1.1
-----Original Message-----
From: Nitin Sahasra [mailto:nitin@webmethods.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:23 AM
To: 'Kuhn Russ-xopr112'
Cc: 'Danley Mike-xopr43'; 'Zych Raymond-ARZ001'; 'Striedl
Richard-ARS095'; 'Werner Emily-o10490'; 'Chet Cuaresma'
Subject: RE: SNMP ENTERPRISES 1.3.6.1.4.1.1783.1.1
Response from Christian Callsen :
We did not change this SNMP OID for a very, very long time. We obtained
the Enterprise ID from IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) as
Active Software (1783 is reserved, check
http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignment/enterprise-numbers ).
The 1.3.6.1.4.1 means:
1. ISO assigned OID
3. ISO Identified Organization
6. US DOD
1. OID assignments from 1.3.6.1 - Internet
4. Internet Private
1. SNMP v1?
This is absolutely ours to use.
We did change something else, though, from 3.x to 4.x. All of our traps
include the full Enterprise OID now as part of the TRAP PDU "enterprise
oid" entry. This was in response to BUG 12107.
We have always set the "from" to the full OID, plus "1.1.1" to signify
an Enterprise Server/Broker "trap" "message". Check out "activesw.mib".
That hasn't changed.
The rules are described in RFC 1215. It suggests including the
ENTERPRISE being set to an OBJECT IDENTIFIER, check 2.1.1 of that RFC.
We're actually following the rules now, as opposed to with 3.1. Motorola
may need to reconfigure their Netview system.
-Christian
_________________________________________________________________________
NV-L List information and Archives: http://www.tkg.com/nv-l
|