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Subject: Re: Aw: Re: RFI problem
From: "Leslie Clark" <lclark@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:39:36 -0400
Andreas, if you are on 6.0.2,  I would take this to Support and have them
dig into it.
I believe that the -n option should make it do just what you want it to do.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

"Andreas.Poehlmann" <ANDREAS.POEHLMANN@Allianz.de>@tkg.com on 05/22/2001
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Hi,

I already read that and tried to use the -n option, but I couldn't get the
result I wanted....
Even changing the handling of the ambiguous case didn't help.

The scenario:
one router, having four interfaces in four subnets whith no other device -
completely stand alone.
Three of the four interfaces I can't ping (no route) so I unmanaged them.
The fourth interface is green as long as I can ping it.
-> so far everything is fine.
If I loose the connection to this interface, the interface turns to red,
the router turns to red -
AND THEN rfi starts to work and turns the interface and the node to white
-> and that's the problem! I'd like to have the router in red as white is
not propagated....

I coudn't find any setup that realizes this.

ANY help appreciated - as I think RFI is of great use, but I have to
display the correct status
of this router....

regards
Andy Pöhlmann
AGIS München






lclark@us.ibm.com@tkg.com on 22.05.2001 13:58:46
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I have seen this, and I think it boils down to a special case of what is
referred to in the documentation as 'the Ambiguous Case'. The -n option
is provided for netmon to control how this case is handled. See the
/usr/OV/doc/RouterFaultIsolation.html document. The -n flag is one
you have to add manually to netmon.lrf. It changes the handling of the
ambiguous case from unreachable to down. I have not tried it. Want to
let us know if it works for this case?

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

"Andreas.Poehlmann" <ANDREAS.POEHLMANN@Allianz.de>@tkg.com on 05/10/2001
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Hi out there,

we're fighting a RFI problem here...

Situation: We monitor a router of which we
- can only ping one of four interfaces and
- none of the interfaces is in a subnet with an other monitored device.
=> This router is logical "not connected" to our network, but we can ping
this interface and
we have SNMP access.

The unpingable interfaces are set to unmanaged.

In case the last pingable interface goes down, RFI assumes the
router is "unreachble", turns it to white and this status change is not
propagated.

I'd like to see this router turning red instead of white!

Having read the manpages and description of the RFI I assume that there is
no
way - but is there realy no way? Any experiences with situations like
this?

Any help appreciated
regards
Andreas Pöhlmann
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