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Subject: Re: NW Topology on maps
From: "Leslie Clark" <lclark@us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:05:08 -0400
Moshe, arranging the map is an art and you will need to try different
arrangements to find one that conveys the most useful information
with the least amount of drilling down. Presumably there is a network
symbol in that Location icon which represents the connection of those
routers, if they are indeed connected to each other. The network symbol
is often your most important view. If you drill into it, you see all of the
routers that have interfaces on that subnet. That is how Netview
represents (non-serial) connections between routers. They all have
interfaces whose addresses and masks indicate that they are connected
via that one subnet. I often choose to leave such major networks right out
on
the top map (or at least in the same location submap) as the routers for
that reason.  The line represents the status of that router's connection.

You can try different arrangements and then change your mind by
taking a database backup (tar up /usr/OV/databases/openview)
before any cutting and pasting), working with it a while, and then
restoring the unmodified map with 'pax -rp e -f  backup.tar'  (with
the daemons down) to try again.

Everyone's network is a little different, and different customers will
want the emphasis on a different part of the map. So no one can
tell you what yours ought to look like. Just don't try to go against
what Netview can really do.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

James Shanks/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS@tkg.com on 07/18/2001 08:27:37 AM

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In two words, "you can't".
As Leslie said, except serial connections there is a network shown bewteen
two routers and you will have to learn to live with that.  You can
consolidate them into locations but that is all.  My advice about hiding
things earlier was because I thought you said you had nodes you did not
want to see, not network symbols.  Sorry to have misled you.

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT


moshe_asseo@il.ibm.com@tkg.com on 07/18/2001 05:31:39 AM

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James , Leslie ,

On the IP internet I have routers and locations.
The routers are connected to the locations as sample below ( in the map it
is much more complicated, but this is enough to emphasis the problem ) -

     RTR1 RTR2 RTR3
         \         |         /
           \       |       /
             \     |     /
               \        |        /
                           Location1
                 /             \
               /                 \
         RTR4        RTR5

This creates a situation on which it is not clear visually which router is
connected to which.
When I hide the location it goes away with all the lines.
Can you advise what to do to show direct connections between the routers ?


Best regards,
Moshe' Asseo.
Technical support group
IBM Global Services Israel
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"James Shanks" <SHANKS@us.tivoli.com> on 07/17/2001 06:16:42 PM

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You will have to do some map customization.
You cannot move the routers off the IP Internet map unless you create a
static submap.  Not what you want I think.
You could hide the nodes you do not want to see (see the Edit menu) or put
them into location containers  to simplify the map.
And you could use turn automatic layout off (View --> Automatic Layout -->
on/off) and then move the objects around by holding down the Ctrl key and
using the middle mouse button.

This kind of thing is discussed in the User's Guide for Beginners and the
Admin Guide.
You might want to make a new map and play with that while you are
experimenting and leave the default one alone until you get what you think
you want.


James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT


moshe_asseo@il.ibm.com@tkg.com on 07/17/2001 06:53:22 AM

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Hello,

I have a request to show on one map or submap all the Routers with the
lines between them as displayed on the root ip internet, but without any
other nodes.
Also the request is asking to locate specific routers in specific places on
the screen.
Any idea how to perform this ? Is this possible ?

Best regards,
Moshe' Asseo.
Technical support group
IBM Global Services Israel
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Tel. 972-3-5316820 , Ext. 6820   ,    Mobile: 972-50-369245   ,
Fax.972-3-5313580
E-Mail: moshe_asseo@il.ibm.com


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