For us the decision is not made, but we are in the same process.
Just for Netview maintnance it cost 35K$ for 395 interfaces.
We don't have TEC, at the time of our Tivoli implementation TEC was too
expensive.
We really think to make the switch.
Ben
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Well, the decision needed to be made two months ago when funds were
available. At that time it was going to cost us around $75k for a second
Netview license for Solaris with 8k interfaces. We purchased Openview NNM
with unlimited nodes for $14k... we made the choice because of available
resources at the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: pgeiger@us.ibm.com [mailto:pgeiger@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 6:28 AM
To: DSullinger@dot.state.az.us
Cc: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] NetView vs. OpenView
Hmmm....That is surprising, with the new license structure NetView should
have been an extremely inexpensive solution for you. If you purchase TEC
(at a very small minimum), you get unlimited use of NetView for no
additional cost. And of course you then have the option of using TEC as
well for additional event management capabilities.
Pam
Pam Geiger
Tivoli Performance and Availability Evangelist
pgeiger@us.ibm.com
919-224-1665, T/L 687-1665
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07/22/2002 Subject: RE: [nv-l]
09:30 AM NetView vs. OpenView
Well, I hate to chime in on this because it probably won't be very popular
with the group, but...
We currently are running Netview, but we just purchased OpenView... Reason?
Cost... As simple as that. We needed an extra license for Netview and the
cost was based on how many interfaces we wanted to manage. After reviewing
this, it was to cost prohibitive. Openview had a enterprise license that
covered as many nodes, interfaces and devices we needed to manage. After 3
years of use, I'm somewhat comfortable with Netview, but it really came
down
to available resources... Openview was less than half the cost, we really
didn't have a choice. They both worked about the same... It was a hard
decision to make, but we just couldn't afford to lay out what Netview
wanted
for an additional license during these economic times.
-----Original Message-----
From: netview@toddh.net [mailto:netview@toddh.net]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 12:54 PM
To: IMHOFF,MICHAEL (HP-Denmark,ex1)
Cc: 'Eric Pobst'; nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: Re: [nv-l] NetView vs. OpenView
"IMHOFF,MICHAEL (HP-Denmark,ex1)" <michael_imhoff@hp.com> writes:
> You can't compare NetView with OpenView. OpenView is a suite of
> management tools like Tivoli.
>
> I suppose you mean that you want to compare NetView with OpenView
> Network Node Manager (NNM). They pretty much do the same job (and was
> original based on the same code). They have moved in different
> direction when it comes to new functionality like event correlation,
> distributed management and web GUI's.
Can you elaborate on these differences?
> The only place I really see a difference is on the level two discovery
> and graphical layout. With NNM Extended Topology you'll get
> functionality you'll otherwise only find in vendor specific tools like
> CiscoWorks.
I'm curious how it compares now that Tivoli has released the IBM Tivoli
Switch Analyzer product.
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
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