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RE: RES: [nv-l] RFI Router marginal?

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Subject: RE: RES: [nv-l] RFI Router marginal?
From: "James Brunke" <jbrunke@ctsgi.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:19:11 -0500
I think the "James" Marco was addressing in his response was me :-)

Thanks to all of you for your insight.  I've opened a problem opened
with support.  I will let you know how it turns out.

Thanks,

James Brunke 
Crystal Technology Solutions Group 
jbrunke@ctsgi.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:jshanks@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:01 PM
To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: Re: RES: [nv-l] RFI Router marginal?


Marcos --

No need to address me on the list. I am volunteer here like everyone
else, 
and I am not an expert in netmon, ovtopmd, or ovtopofix.  Not my area of

the code. 
 All I can tell you is this.  If you have only one map, then unmanaging
an 
object on that map should make it unmanaged in the database as well.
You 
can use ovobjprint -s <selection_name> to check (or right-click on the 
node symbol on the map and use "Tools --> Display Object Information".
It 
should say "OVW Maps Exist     1" , "OVW Maps Managed     0",  "IP
Status  
 Unmanaged (5)".    If your maps exist count is greater than 1, you will

have to open each of your other maps and unmanage the object on those as

well, in order for the maps managed count to go to zero and the IP
Status 
to become Unmanaged(5). 

 If this isn't what you see, then I would call Support.   It should not
be 
necessary to run ovtopofix for an object to change from managed to 
unmanaged and back again. It should occur as you do it. 



James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group




Marcos Antonio Pezzutti Filho <pezzutti@banespa.com.br> 11/06/2002 09:35
PM

 
        To:     nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
        cc: 
        Subject:        RES: [nv-l] RFI Router marginal?



Hi James,

We experienced this kind of problem here.
We´ve noticed that when setting a node unmanaged, in the database it
isn´t really unmanaged. It was necessary to run ovtopofix to set the
right 
status.
We don´t know if this is a problem or not.

-----Mensagem original-----
De: James Brunke [mailto:jbrunke@ctsgi.com] 
Enviada em: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 17:19
Para: 'Leslie Clark'; nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Assunto: RE: [nv-l] RFI Router marginal?


Leslie-

An ovobjprint shows the router as Marginal and the interface which
should 
be
Unmanaged as Critical.  When I look at the map, the interface "looks"
unmanaged (it is brown and when I right click on it, my options include
Manage).  If I Manage then Unmanage the interface on the map, the Router

Up
message immediately is issued and the IP status of the interface in the
ovobjprint is now Unmanaged. 

I've got a problem opened with support on this one, I'll let you know
how 
it
comes out...

Thanks, Jim

James Brunke 
Crystal Technology Solutions Group 
jbrunke@ctsgi.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie Clark [mailto:lclark@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:25 AM
To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: Re: [nv-l] RFI Router marginal?



Yes, I believe it should, at least in passing. Possible there is a
Router 
Up
that follows it. Possibly it is Log Only? Or possibly that interface is
still managed somewhere in some other map? Try running ovmapcount -a to 
see
if there is a discrepancy in the number of maps the things are managed
in. I find Router Marginal to be ambiguous so I don't use it in
rulesets, generally.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit


 

                      "James Brunke"

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                                               Subject:  [nv-l] RFI
Router marginal? 
                      11/04/2002 10:31

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Netview V7.1.2 on Windows 2K.

I have downstream routers with inactive interfaces I have unmanaged in
Netview.  When a primary upstream router goes down, RFI does it's job
and reports the downstream routers Unreachable and the upstream router
either marginal or down.  But when the upstream router comes back up,
Netview is reporting the downstream routers as Router marginal.  Since
all of the managed interfaces are up, shouldn't it be reporting Router
up?

Is this a bug?

Thanks, Jim

James Brunke
Crystal Technology Solutions Group
Email: jbrunke@ctsgi.com



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