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RE: [nv-l] Map Layout by Application

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] Map Layout by Application
From: Stephen Hochstetler <shochste@us.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:14:22 -0600
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Even with an enhancement request, it does not sound like a Smartset would
deliver what he requires.   Getting servers / printers is fine in a
smartset, but he also said networks...which I interrupt as the  networking
infrastructure that supports this application.

While TBSM was designed specifically for this in mind, unless Bayer has a
distributed TBSM in plan, it probably does not make economic sense to
introduce this.   TBSM would give the business view that he is requesting.

It seems that he wants to see his servers and printers and the items
betweent them that would affect their availability.   In case something
goes unavailable, he wants to look at a network map and see if it is a
printer, a server or something that is keeping the two from talking.

If you want to stay away from multiple maps (which is good) but must still
satisfy his needs, I would recommend a small NetView built for print
application monitoring.  Do you have Linux experience?   I would hope the
pricing for hardware and software for NetView running on a Linux box would
permit you to deliver this solution without breaking the bank.  You could
setup the seed file to only discover the specific nodes/network that he
wants to monitor making it something that matches exactly what he is asking
for.

Kind regards,
Stephen Hochstetler              shochste@us.ibm.com
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There is an enhancement request in to scope by smartset.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Marcos Antonio Pezzutti Filho [mailto:pezzutti@banespa.com.br]
      Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:54 PM
      To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
      Subject: RES: [nv-l] Map Layout by Application

      Hi Jim

      Jennifer´s sugestion is good, but I think it won´t work out, cause
      Scoping is not allowed to Smartsets, only for networks and locations.
      If you create another location formed by copied resources isn´t a
      good choice, cause status of the copies is not syncronized with the
      original.
      Unfortunately you have to find a way to group these devices in
      locations or networks.

      -----Mensagem original-----
      De: Jennifer Nelson [mailto:nelsonj@us.ibm.com]
      Enviada em: Friday, March 07, 2003 15:30
      Para: Jim Whitaker
      Cc: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
      Assunto: Re: [nv-l] Map Layout by Application


      Hi Jim-

      What about making a SmartSet containing all of these objects?
      Another option could be to use the scoping option on the web console
      security feature to scope users requiring access to only see the
      print components somehow but the SmartSet solution would probably be
      simpler.

      Jennifer Nelson
      Tivoli Services - IBM Software Group
      nelsonj@us.ibm.com

                                                                       
    "Jim Whitaker"                                                     
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    03/07/2003 11:57 AM                          Subject:        [nv-l]
                                         Map Layout by Application     
                                                                       





      We have always laid out our NetView map based on location.  We do use
      container
      objects
      to simplify things, but these are typically cities or buildings.
      We've received
      a request for a view
      of all the components of our printing subsystem. This view would
      include all of
      the central servers,
      distributed print servers, fax servers and some critical printers,
      and, all of
      the networks that
      connect them. He'd also prefer that it be possible to link to this
      view from a
      web page. Leaving
      that last requirement aside for the moment, we can think of two ways
      to do this:

      1. A second NetView map - we have always avoided this option because
      of the
      complications
          involved in maintaining multiple maps.
      2. A new container object into which the selected components can be
      COPIED and
      pasted.
         We tried this approach. It appears that the copied objects appear
      on the
      "User" plane
         and do not show any connections to each other.

      So how can we give this guy his application view?  Any suggestions?

      Jim Whitaker
      Bayer Corporation
      jim.whitaker.b@bayer.com


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