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To: "Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com>, NetView mailing list <nv-l@lists.tivoli.com>
Subject: Re: [nv-l] java hogging CPU
From: Jane Curry <jane.curry@skills-1st.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:24:46 +0100
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Hi Scott,
Re memory - I can definitely confirm that java gives you horrible thrashing if you don't have enough memory. I was running on a 256Mb machine until lunchtime when the extra 256Mb arrived. This does make some things a little faster (like it only takes half forever to, say, bring up web console security); the bad news is that the extra memory just seems to move the bottleneck to CPU. This system now has 512Mb memory and runs NV7.1.3 and Switch Analyzer with a tiny database of 80 objects - nothing else other than AIX 5.1 ML03 at present.

For comparison, I was recently using OpenView NNM 6.4 on a 384Mb Solaris 2.8 system and it's Web Console I have to say was much faster compared with my 512Mb RAM NV Web Console on AIX. Perhaps they know how to tune java????

Cheers,
Jane

Barr, Scott wrote:

I share your concerns 100%

My hunch is that the machine (Solaris in my case) is getting hammered swapping because the basic memory allocation for a java environment is too small for the actual application. The web console wants about 71mb for instance, but the basic allocation is 64 mb and there fore, no matter what, you spend your time swapping java back in and out. Janes comment about it being pure CPU don't jive with that, so I could be wrong.
If I had any number of web console users this would be a significant concern. 
But Jane's point is right on the money, it consumes entirely too much of the 
machine.

I have heard that using an alternate java deployment (such as IBMs) can help, 
but I don't know whether AIX uses that nifty IBM java machine or whether it 
uses a stock one.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Curry [mailto:jane.curry@skills-1st.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 12:13 PM
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Subject: [nv-l] java hogging CPU


Is anyone else really bored by the way NetView's java processes (jetty and snmpserver in particular) just max out an AIX system on CPU? I've recently built a NV 7.1.3 on AIX 5.1 hoping for better things but java still hogs most of the resources - it's pure CPU, there's no thrashing going on. Add on a TEC java console or something like CiscoWorks and you can simply forget it.

I tried Oliver's suggestion about looking at AIX manuals on Java tuning (with AIX 4.3.3) but this didn't really help.

Does anyone have any good, specific recommendation for tuning java for NetView on AIX?

Thanks,
Jane


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