Re: [nv-l] Netview clients

[James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>]

Sorry but it is not my job to test nor to investigate GUI connection issues, So I cannot tell you anything about X-windows over SSH or anything of the sort.

I never do anything but telnet to other lab boxes, because my job only requires minimal interaction with the GUI. Usually I am concerned only with nvevents.    And it was not my decision to not support the native NetView client-server on Linux.  Linux poses its own challenges with regard to GUIs and Window managers and having to support native client-server would have delayed the Linux implementation of NetView considerably.  That was a strategic decision in marketing and development.  The view there, in marketing and development, is that you should be looking at the web console to replace multiple X-windows connections or learn to live with the overhead. 

 That's all I can tell you.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group

Oscar Gosdinski <ogosdinski@yahoo.com> 09/30/2003 01:44 PM

To:        James Shanks/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS         cc:                 Subject:        Re: [nv-l] Netview clients

Hi James, as i know (reading the manuals) i cannot
reduce the server load using X-Windows because the GUI
would be working on the server consuming CPU and
memory. I use this scenario (Linux connected to my AIX
box using X-Windows) but i want to reduce the server
work using several clients.

As you told me in another e-mail i think i cannot make
improvements on the performance of my server at least
i purchase another AIX or Solaris machine :o(

Some time ago i made a test using X-Windows over SSH
but it didn't work with the Netview GUI, but it works
fine for other applications for example Tivoli Desktop
and xterm, have you tried this configuration?

Thanks for your answer.
Regards
Oscar

--- James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> John,
> 
> Using Hummingbird to emulate a UNIX X-windows
> display on some MS Windows 
> is not the same thing as installing a NetView client
> from the NetView for 
> Windows distribution and having it sync up with a
> NetView for UNIX server. 
>   Those are two very different things.
> 
> In NetView terms, client-server refers to installing
> a GUI component on 
> another box to act as a client.  What you are
> talking about is doing a 
> telnet session using an X-emulator.  That you can
> do.  But it does not 
> offload any cycles from the NetView server; rather
> it adds to them.  The 
> native NetView client actually reduces the impact of
> an additional display 
> on the server box. 
> 
> James Shanks
> Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and
> Windows
> Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John M Gatrell@IBMGB
> 09/30/2003 11:49 AM
> 
> 
>         To:     James Shanks/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
>         cc: 
>         From:   John M Gatrell/UK/IBM@IBMGB
>         Subject:        Re: [nv-l] Netview clients
> 
> 
> Client / server on Linux?  Yes, I do this with
> X-windows.
> Either running something like Hummingbird Exceed on
> windows talking to 
> Netview on Linux.
> Or running 2 linux boxes, one as an X-windows front
> end, the other running 
> Netview.
> 
> Is it a good idea? Well not if you think you can run
> on smaller machines.
> The NetView box must be big in terms of memory and
> to some extent, cpu.
> 
> John Gatrell, B.A. Physics, CCNA
> RMSC - IBM UK's Remote Managed Services Centre
> Tel:  0870-010-6284 Internal 814732


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