Re: [nv-l] Accidents do happen

[Leslie Clark <lclark@us.ibm.com>]

Chris, everybody does that in the beginning at least on the Unix version. The windows version's menu omits some of the choices that lead you to make the mistake in the first place. 

Carlos's method on NT is also available on Unix. There, using the context menu, you can chose to delete the symbol (not the object) which is near the cursor. 

The problem is caused by a couple of different finger checks. Rules:
1)Cut..from THIS submap (never from ALL - that option is only there to fool you.) or you will get floaters.
2)Never use the Copy until you are a really advanced user. It won't do what you think it will, but it will make floaters.
3)Don't paste twice - you will get floaters
4)Don't cut twice - you will lose what was in the cut buffer.

A policy that works well for me is 'No talking between the cut and the paste'.

As for recovery, the cleanest way is to delete and rediscover the node that you messed up. This is more important in case (1) above. For cases (2) and (3), deleting the extra symbol is usually pretty safe. If you have floaters, you have probably made an error and it should be cleaned up, because Netview is not really managing the floaters - it thinks you are, because you made them. 

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

CMazon@commercebankfl.com Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com 02/27/2004 04:47 PM Please respond to nv-l

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I am not sure if it is the same for Unix, but when that happened to me once in windows I simply right click on the new symbol and select delete symbol.  Don't  select it with left click because as you may already know it will select both. 

Hope that helps. 

Carlos

"Christopher J Petrina" <cjp8@meadwestvaco.com> Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com 02/27/2004 04:39 PM Please respond to nv-l

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greetings. 

I have something I have been struggling with a while.   If you cut and paste a device from one submap to another and lets say that device already existed in the submap you moved it to.  How can you undo themove, and/or remove the copy you put there without removing both.  I ahve seen this forever, and never found a way other then to delete the device and then rediscover it.  That or do a ovtopofix -a.    Just a thought for anyone who has come across this and whether or not anyone has any ideas other then the ways I mentioned 

Thanks 
Chris Petrina