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RE: [nv-l] dot1dbridge

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] dot1dbridge
From: Leslie Clark <lclark@us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:04:50 -0400
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Thanks, guys. So it looks CAM is the same as the dot1dBridge forwarding table but in a different table.  I found CAM in cisco-stack-mib-v1smi.mib:

brouterCamAgingTime OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX INTEGER (0..1000000)
    ACCESS read-write
    STATUS deprecated
    DESCRIPTION
        "The aging time for the CAM table.  This duplicate
        item is the same value as dot1dTpAgingTime."
    DEFVAL { 300 }
    ::= { brouterGrp 6 }

It sounds like updating the CAM ageout will also update the variable that Switch Analyzer wants, causing entries to be kept in the dot1dbridge forwarding table as well as the CAM table. We will try it. (That will be at least a week of change control ....)

Francois, this tip was from the troubleshooting guide. For devices that end up in the layer2 summary report in the section 'unreachable by layer2 segment', when you are sure you have all of the devices discovered, the problem, they say, is almost always this ageout problem. I'm not convinced, but I've told the customer that we cannot call Support until we have tried this recommended setting. They recommend upping it from 5 minutes to 15 minutes.

Thanks, guys.


Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit



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How often does TSA read the dot1dBridge table in the switch ? is it every
15 minutes ?
Where does this recommendation come from and where is it documented ?

Thanks,
Salutations, / Regards,

Francois Le Hir
Network Projects & Consulting Services
IBM Global Services
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Follow up from our router guru:

IOS type looks like the following.

csg-gss-sw1(config)#mac-address-table aging-time XXX

So that covers both flavors of the Cisco switch IOS?s


From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On
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Leslie, hope this helps? it?s not the mib variable but will get you closer:

This looks like the command for a CatOs type switch.  It would be different
for a IOS type switch.

csg-mildc-sw1> (enable) set cam ?

 agingtime                  Set CAM aging time
 dynamic                    Set dynamic CAM entries
 notification               Set MAC address change notification
 permanent                  Set permanent CAM entries
 static                     Set static CAM entries
csg-mildc-sw1> (enable) set cam agingtime ?
 <vlan>                     VLAN number
csg-mildc-sw1> (enable) set cam agingtime XXX

A show cam agingtime shows each vlan at 300 sec.  Hopefully there is a way
to change it globally instead of per VLAN.



From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On
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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:57 PM
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Subject: RE: [nv-l] dot1dbridge

Leslie, I?ve forwarded your question to our router guru.

The key difference is that ARP cache is a media layer mechanism for tying
an IP address to a MAC address. What you are asking about is tying a bridge
number to a MAC address i.e. this bridge has knowledge of this MAC address
on this segment number. When he gives me an answer I?ll post it.


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Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:49 PM
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Subject: [nv-l] dot1dbridge


Can anyone tell me the proper terminology to use when asking a Cisco guy to
change the age-out time for the forwarding table in the dot1dBridge mib?
They think I am talking about the arp cache, but I am not. For Switch
Analyzer it is recommended to increase the value from the default of 300
seconds to 900 seconds, and I can tell them the mib variable, but I cannot
give them the command in Cisco-ese.

For clarity, the mib variable is:

iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-2.dot1dBridge.dot1dTp.dot1dTpAgingTime
.1.3.6.1.2.1.17.4.2

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit



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