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Re: [nv-l] Avaya G3 Monitoring (resolved)

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Subject: Re: [nv-l] Avaya G3 Monitoring (resolved)
From: reamd@Nationwide.com
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:20:30 -0500
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James,
             Thanks for your reply. I attempted to load g3mib20_asn1 after
I commented out the ISO and received the following error message. I
appreciate your assistance..  Dave

Line 37184: Warning: token longer than allowed maximum, truncating

     alarmCritical       TRAP-TYPE
        ENTERPRISE      g3-products
        VARIABLES       {
g3clientExternalName,g3alarmsProductID,g3alarmsAlarmNu
mber,g3alarmsPort,g3alarmsMaintName,g3alarmsOnBrd,g3alarmsAlarmType }
        DESCRIPTION     "This trap is defined for future use."
        ::= 1

Line 37190: Warning: token longer than allowed maximum, truncating

    alarmMajor          TRAP-TYPE
        ENTERPRISE      g3-products
        VARIABLES       {
g3clientExternalName,g3alarmsProductID,g3alarmsAlarmNu
mber,g3alarmsPort,g3alarmsMaintName,g3alarmsOnBrd,g3alarmsAlarmType }
        DESCRIPTION     "A Major alarm has been issued by the switch. The
                        MIB variables provide attributes of the alarm. The
                        information contained in the g3alarmsPort,
                        g3alarmsMaintName, g3alarmsOnBrd trap variables
                        differ depending on the kind of alarm. If the
                        alarm is a voice server alarm these fields
                        contain, respectively, an equipment location,
                        maintenance object name, and flag indicating
                        whether or not the alarm was on-board. For
                        server platform alarms and messaging alarms these
                        fields contain, respectively, an alarm description
                        including the source of the alarm, a string
                        indicating the resource from which the alarm
                        was generated, and an event ID associated with that
                        resource. More details on the contents of these
                        fields can be found in the appropriate product
                        maintenance documentation.
        ::= 2

Line 37213: Error defining TRAP-TYPE: Expected '::=', found 'A'

    alarmMinor          TRAP-TYPE
        ENTERPRISE      g3-products
        VARIABLES       {
g3clientExternalName,g3alarmsProductID,g3alarmsAlarmNu
mber,g3alarmsPort,g3alarmsMaintName,g3alarmsOnBrd,g3alarmsAlarmType }
        DESCRIPTION     "A Minor alarm has been issued by the switch.
                        The fields in this trap type has the same
                        differences, for g3alarmsPort, g3alarmsMaintName,
                        and g3alarmsOnBrd, as described above for the
                        alarmMajor trap type."
        ::= 3





                                                                                
                                                       
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This is my third response (sigh).

It was pointed out to me that my last  append on this subject was not quite
technically correct.  The solution I offered, of commenting out the line
         iso             OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 1 }

does work.  But the reason we rejected the MIB was not because iso was the
root of the tree, but because it was incorrectly specified.  The actual
root of the international MIB tree is "ccitt",  which has the value zero.
So to be completely correct, this MIB has to say,
         iso             OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { ccitt 1 }

and then it will load just fine.

This just shows you the dangers of redefining everything back to the common
parts of the tree.  As long as your defs are consistent with what's already
loaded, then all is well.  But if you deviate from that , the MIB won't
load.  Which is why it's better to start, as most vendors do, with just the
parts they are responsible for.  In this case that would be this line, and
everything which follows:
         avaya           OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { enterprises 6889 }

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group

                                                                           
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This is my second response.

I thought at first you were asking about pre-reqs but then I started to
puzzle over that error message and I couldn't see how that related, so just
for grins I downloaded one of these MIBs, g3mib20_asn1, to see what it
looked like.  I collect problem MIBs as a sort of hobby.  I tried to load
it and got the same error you did about the parent not being defined.
Here's what the MIB looks like at the beginning with lots of  definitions,
the first

3-AVAYA-MIB DEFINITIONS ::= BEGIN

   IMPORTS
       OBJECT-TYPE, DisplayString
           FROM RFC1213-MIB
       OBJECT-TYPE, NetworkAddress, IpAddress,  Counter, Gauge, TimeTicks
           FROM RFC1155-SMI;

--  The following should be defined elsewhere
   iso             OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 1 }
   org             OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { iso 3 }
   dod             OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { org 6 }
   internet        OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { dod 1 }
   private         OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { internet 4 }
   enterprises     OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { private 1 }

   avaya           OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { enterprises 6889 }
   mibs            OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { avaya 2 }
   definity            OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { mibs 8 }
   g3-mib            OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { definity 1 }
   g3proxmib            OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { definity 2 }

   products        OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { avaya 1 }
   def-products    OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { products 8 }
   g3-products     OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { def-products 1 }


Now what the error message "Line 0: Error defining object ": Parent" not
defined." is trying to tell you is that we don't know where to start
putting all these definitions.  That's because we already start at  the iso
level and you cannot redefine that.  So all you have to do to get this to
load (and any others like this) is to comment out the line which reads
       iso             OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 1 }
by putting 2 dashes in front of it, like this
- -        iso             OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { 1 }
and it should load just fine.  It does for me.

In fact, everything down to the Avaya enterprise is redundant and could
also be commented out.  But its re-defining the root of the MIB tree is why
we gave you the error message.


James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
                                                                           
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Thanks Mahesh,
                            I attempted to load all the G3 mibs and
received error  Line 0: Error defining object ": Parent" not defined.    I
assume it needs other mibs loaded prior to the G3's..  I have RFC1213-Mib
and RFC1155-SMI mibs loaded.. Thanks, Dave



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                        11/04/2004 03:38 PM

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Try this link.

http://support.avaya.com/elmodocs2/MIB/

HTH

Mahesh

On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 15:06, reamd@Nationwide.com wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>           We are looking to monitor Avaya G3 PBX's with netview. Does
> anyone do this? If so, can you tell me where the mibs are and/or how you
> monitor them.
>
> Thanks, Dave
>
> AIX 5.1
> 7.1.4 FixPack1
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Mahesh Tailor
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Carilion Health System
Information Services
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Roanoke, VA 24016
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