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Subject: | Re: [nv-l] new seedfile with auto discovery |
From: | Allie M Hopkins <allie@lsu.edu> |
Date: | Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:48:01 -0600 |
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I issued netmon -y as well as ovstop netmon ovstart netmon. I'm quite sure that I have the SNMP communities correct on all the boxes. The correct symbol is displayed and I can browse all mibs. I understand how the discovery is supposed to work... poll the devices arp and go from there. It's just not discovering those devices unless I put those entries into the seedfile. I'm wondering if the order in which I did things has affected the process. It seems the changes would take affect once stopping and starting netmon or with netmon -y, but I'm not certain. Allie |---------+----------------------------> | | James Shanks | | | <jshanks@us.ibm.c| | | om> | | | Sent by: | | | owner-nv-l@lists.| | | us.ibm.com | | | | | | | | | 01/27/2005 11:37 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | nv-l | |---------+----------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com | | cc: (bcc: Allie M Hopkins/allie/LSU) | | Subject: Re: [nv-l] new seedfile with auto discovery | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| After you changed your seed file the last time, did you restart netmon or issue "netmon -y" to have the file re-read? Seed files are not read all the time but only at various points in the cycle. That said, auto discovery depends upon SNMP. netmon reads the ARP cache of the boxes he knows about and uses that the find others. After discovering those, he reads their ARP caches and repeats the process. So having the correct SNMP read community names in xnmsnmpconf or the alternate community names file is critical. No SNMP, no auto discovery. This will be especially true of gateway devices such as routers. Those should be in your seed file. James Shanks Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group (Embedded image moved to file: pic13066.gif)Inactive hide details for Allie M Hopkins <allie@lsu.edu>Allie M Hopkins <allie@lsu.edu> Allie M Hopkins <allie@lsu.e du> (Embedded image moved to file: Sent by: pic04932.gif) owner-nv-l@l To ists.us.ibm. (Embedded image com moved to file: pic11187.gif) nv-l@lists.us.ibm 01/27/2005 .com 11:28 AM (Embedded image moved to file: pic29380.gif) cc Please respond to (Embedded image nv-l moved to file: pic31078.gif) (Embedded image moved to file: pic27443.gif) Subject (Embedded image moved to file: pic31012.gif) [nv-l] new seedfile with auto discovery (Embedded image moved to file: pic02038.gif) (Embedded image moved to file: pic18816.gif) I've read MANY archived messages and the manuals about how this is supposed to work. I just can't seem to grasp it. I cleared my map and databases to start my map generation over. I had lots of stale, irrelevant data and we just wanted a fresh start. Previously we only discovered those things in the seedfile. This resulted in a huge seedfile and many devices being left out from lack of communication. I want to use negative entries as described in another message in the archive to exclude everything but what I want. I turned on auto discovery. I started up netview and only those initial seeds I entered - a few key routers - were discovered. I have to put the entries in the seed before they are discovered. I'm not 100% certain of my steps, so I may have done things in the wrong order. For some reason I forgot to pull out the @limit_discovery statement from the seedfile on initial startup. I removed it as soon as I realized it. I also may have turned on auto discovery AFTER the initial startup as well. Will these things affect the discovery? I really don't want to put every device in the file again. Am I missing something or is NetView acting as designed? Should I restart automatic map generation again? Allie M Hopkins
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