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RE: [nv-l] How to discover VPN & Remote Router?

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] How to discover VPN & Remote Router?
From: James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:54:22 -0400
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Anvaj,

Sorry, but I don't work on netmon, so I don't know precisely what those
messages mean.  That's why we have a support organization.  When you need
personal help, that's where you should go.

If I had to guess, and that's all I can do, something is wrong with your
discovery settings.   When you use serversetup, and pull down the Daemon
Control menu and select Network Monitor, go to the Discovery tab.  Does it
say to discover all networks or not?  I would guess that it has to.

If no one else has any ideas for you, then please call IBM support locally
and get a specialist to assist you.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group


                                                                           
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Thanks James and now I have more options to work around.

Find below the netmon trace log


06/07/2005 08:09:51 PM:revc_icmp: deleteMatchSeq returns null ->sennum
38635
doesn't match
06/07/2005 08:09:51 PM:addhint(10.31.100.129) rejected (no network for IP
addr)
06/07/2005 08:09:51 PM:-> received unexpected ping from 10.31.100.129
06/07/2005 08:09:51 PM:handle_echo_reply rtt=-98462756
06/07/2005 08:09:51 PM:revc_icmp: deleteMatchSeq returns null ->sennum
38636
doesn't match
06/07/2005 08:09:51 PM:addhint(10.31.100.129) rejected (no network for IP
addr)



It appears to me that the IP 10.31.100.129 is not added because that
particular network is not present.  But I think NetView should have
identified this network. Please share your thoughts on this?



Tracing route to 10.31.100.129 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  10.10.1.250
  2   353 ms   354 ms   352 ms  10.31.100.129



Best regards,
Anvaj




-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On
Behalf Of James Shanks
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 6:55 PM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] How to discover VPN & Remote Router?

If netmon won't discover an object you think it should then I would
recommend the netmon trace.
You can start it dynamically with "netmon -M -1"  from a command window and
stop it the same way with 'netmon -M -0"
The negative one trace mask has it trace everything.  (Other mask values
are also possible, as documented in the Programmer's Reference in
\usr\ov\books. ) Then you can observe what happens in
\usr\ov\log\netmon.trace when you ping the device.

If you want to see what happens with the seed file, then you can have
netmon reload and re-evaluate it by issuing netmon -y, while you are
tracing.

You can manually add devices to the object database using the loadhosts
command, which is also documented in the Programmer's Reference in
\usr\ov\books


James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group



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Thanks glen and I have tried this usual force discovery (Seed file and
pinging), but not getting discovered on the map.  Do we have another
mechanism to add a device manually and start monitoring on NetView?

Best regards,
Anvaj




From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On
Behalf Of Glen Warn
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:16 PM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] How to discover VPN & Remote Router?

We have several similar issues.  Have you tried adding those hostnames or
IP addresses to the seedfile?  If not, you can access it by going to
Options - Netmon Seed Editor.  Highlight set initial discovery seeds - then
hit add and either enter the IP or the hostname (make sure it's the
"nearest hop" interface though).  Just hit save and answer yes when asked
to update the network monitor.  Try a ping a few seconds later and
typically it will appear.  I've had many nodes on the back side of
firewalls and VPNs where this is the only way to get them discovered.

Glen Warn
PEMCO Corporation Computer Services (PCCS)
glen.warn@pemcocorp.com
206-628-5770



From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On
Behalf Of Anvaj A B
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:03 AM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: [nv-l] How to discover VPN & Remote Router?
Hi,

I am running Netview 7.1.4 with FP03 on win2k Server.  I have a Router and
Firewall to monitor at the remote location

My NMS can reach (ping and snmp) these devices through a VPN (Cisco PIX 515
to Router 2611) and I am able to do ping and SNMP-Walk on these devices.
But I am not able to discover these devoices on my NetView MAP by following
the usual methods (seed file, pining etc).   Also my VPN connectivity from
the local PIX (This is displaced on the MAP) to remoter router is also not
displayed.

Please share your thoughts on the force discovery or possible problems.

Best regards,

Anvaj Aliyarukutty
Global Network Operations Center (GNOC)
US Technology
Nila, Technopark
Phone : +91 471 233 5777 ext 8651
Mobile: +91 944 772 8103






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