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Re: [NV-L] How big can a seedfile be

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One thing you could try is to take the IPs of a small group of devices that aren't being discovered and add them to a new seedfile. Then temporarily configure netmon to use that seedfile and see what happens. May want to copy all your entries that have polling/processing directives as well, just for good measure.

I'm not really sure what is or isn't standard practise for the majority of customers, but I'd say that a "best practise" could be to remove entries from the "active" seedfile that have already been discovered (no need to seed them anymore). You can always keep a master copy of a seedfile that has every single IP you would like to store in a seedfile for some other later use.

The only entries you need to keep in an active seedfile are those with  "directives" such as HSRP (%)  or SNMP Status polling ($) or the locking of the SNMP Address (=), etc. All other entries can be removed once discovered.

Cheers,
Gareth



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Ford had a PMR opened in 2003 to ask that question and the answer was pretty big, as I recall. However I think it is possible that the problem is that when you specify every address, then at startup netmon is going to check on every address whether it exists or not. I think I would enable tracing on netmon, then watch netmon.trace when you do a netmon -y. It posts a message when it is done loading that includes the word "sucessfully".  Try putting a misspelled node name at the end and see if the reload calls it out. If you ping the address you are looking for (from the commandline) and grep it in netmon.trace, you will see if netmon is getting around to trying to add it or is trying but giving up for some other reason.  It's just not how it was intended to be used, so it is not optimized for it.


As for the link business, I just tried it and it worked fine. Moved a seedfile to somewhere else, and added a link where it was, and did a netmon -y. The resulting message in netmon.trace says it was loaded successfully.

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What is the limit, if there is one, on the size of a seedfile?  Right now, mine is huge:

-rw-rw----  1 bkain1 bkain1 16783342 May 23 19:07 seedfile (this is on suse linux 9)

And it seems like the addresses that were added at the end are not getting discovered, yet I can snmp walk them.  And can the seedfile a link, as specified in netmon.lrf, or does that have to be the actual file listed?  Thanks_______________________________________________
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