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Re: NV V5 - Firewall/Routing table -Reply

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Subject: Re: NV V5 - Firewall/Routing table -Reply
From: "Joel A. Gerber" <joel.gerber@USAA.COM>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:12:18 -0500
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
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We are also using NetView to manage devices that are external to our
firewall.  As far as I know, NetView is not aware that address translation
is going on at all.  It will only see the "real" IP addresses and networks.
You will need to define an address for your NetView server, as Hal
mentioned, so that the devices outside the firewall can communicate with the
NetView box for things like sending traps, etc.  The biggest problem we had
implementing network management was that a lot of static routes had to be
added.  NetView needs a route to every IP subnet just so it can ping the IP
addresses on the router interfaces.  The actual user traffic flowing through
your firewall network only needs routes to get from one end to the other.
It does not need a route for every hop in between, so you will need to add
more routes if you want NetView to be able to monitor every device and
interface.

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Hal Dorsman [SMTP:DORSMANH@SPH.HBOCVAN.COM]
        Sent:   Monday, August 24, 1998 11:41
        To:     NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
        Subject:        NV V5 - Firewall/Routing table -Reply

        Netview can handle external networks/hosts through a firewall just
fine.
        Simply define a route on your Netview box  to the external network
with
        your firewall as the gateway.  Define a translated address for your
        Netview box on your firewall so it can be seen from the outside.
Your
        external router will have to have the address of your Netview
station
        with your firewall as your gateway so your router will know how to
find
        your internal Netview box.  Add a rule in your firewall allowing
SNMP
        from your external networks to your translated address for your
        Netview station.  Add a rule allowing SNMP out from your Netview box
to
        your external networks.

        You didn't say what firewall, but I am using Checkpoint Firewall-1
and am
        running Netview through it to monitor several remote frame-relay WAN
        sites.  Works great.

        Let me know if you have any problems.

        Hal Dorsman
        Network Adminstrator
        Saint Patrick Hospital
        Missoula, Montana, USA

        >>> "Kirsten S, Campbell" <Kirsten.Campbell@NAUTEC.CWPLC.COM>
        08/24/98 10:50am >>>
        All (Could someone please send me an ACK if they receive this),

             We are installing firewalls, and will now have to monitor
external
        customers networks.

             My question is:   How do Netview cope with the routing tables,
when
        we
        are doing address translation in the Firewall??

                       Will Netview try and link "address translated"
objects with
        the "real" objects, using the router table in the "address
translated"
        object???

             Thanks for any help given.

                       Kirsten

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