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Re: Cisco Catalyst 5500 Switches and NetView V4.1

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Subject: Re: Cisco Catalyst 5500 Switches and NetView V4.1
From: Michael Seibold PTS/M-SW <mseibold@STR.DAIMLER-BENZ.COM>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:57:37 +0100
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Sender: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Hi Ken,

is it possible that your problem is to discover the layer2 -
network-topology?
As far is I know layer2-discovery isn't realized in NV yet.

Michael Seibold

Ken Guettler wrote:
>
> Leslie,
>
> Thank you for the response.  I have not specifically added the OID
> information to the files which I will.  I don't think this is the whole
> problem however.  NetView will discover the VLAN segments ( made up by the
> 50 or so 5500s), but treats them as if they were just hubs.  Other virtual
> interfaces cannot be mapped to anything and are placed off to the side.
>
> Is this normal?  Will placing the OID information in NetView correct this?
> If more detail is needed I can attempt to draw a diagram of the network and
> also how NetView presents it.  I will be on-site on Thursday to work on the
> problem.
>
> Ken
>
> Maryville Data Systems
> One Pierce Place   Suite 475W
> Itasca,  IL  60143
> (630) 285-9597 ext. 5105
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Leslie Clark [SMTP:lclark@US.IBM.COM]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 1998 2:31 PM
> > To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> > Subject:      Re: Cisco Catalyst 5500 Switches and NetView V4.1
> >
> > >I have a customer with NetView v4.12 who has several Cisco 5500 switches
> > in
> > >a VLAN configuration.  NetView
> > >is not handling the discovery and mapping of this environment well at
> > all,
> > >Is this an unsupported environment with
> > >NetView V4?  Is it fixed in NetView v5?   Any one with this environment
> > have
> > >comments on using NetView to manage the
> > >5500s?
> >
> > You don't say how it is handling it, or what you expected it to do.
> >
> > All you should expect Netview to do with this is draw it, preferably at
> > the
> > Network submap level, in the
> > subnet appropriate for the ip address and mask of its interface card.
> > There
> > should be no difference
> > between Netview versions, I think, in the handling of this.  I suspect
> > that
> > they are being discovered as
> > unknown snmp Object IDs and placed (as generic boxes) in the segment level
> > submap, as if they were
> > PCs or something.
> >
> > In all cases I expect that you will have to add the agent to the agents
> > list in
> > /usr/OV/fields/C/snmp_fields
> > and run ovw -fields, then update the oid_to_type file using 'smit nv6000
> > ..
> > configure', enterng the oid,
> > selecting the vendor (cisco) and agent (you just defined it) and setting
> > the
> > type to H or B. (There is no
> > special entry for Switch, I just pick H or B and that gets it promoted
> > from the
> > Segment submap to the
> > Network submap, the same way G promotes things to the Internet submap).
> > Once
> > you call it a H or B,
> > Netview will automatically assign an approprate symbol for it. If you load
> > CiscoWorks, it provides its
> > own bitmaps, but some of the later devices, or later releases of Cisco os
> > have
> > different OIDs that even
> > Cisco does not provide bitmaps for. Anyway. But if you want a different
> > symbol
> > than Netview assigns,
> > configure oid_to_sym to assign it a different one. (Look at Help...Legends
> > on
> > the top toolbar to see what
> > is available). To get these changes applied, it is usually quickest to
> > just
> > delete and rediscover the device.
> >
> > Now, all of this is really just cosmetic. Netview handles all such devices
> > in
> > the same way, and does not
> > provide any special topology handling for switches, bridges, or hubs that
> > would, for instance, divide
> > IP subnets and associate end nodes with such devices. So there is nothing
> > to
> > 'not support', as long
> > as the device provides an entry in the MIB II interface table for the
> > address
> > you know it by.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Leslie Clark
> > IBM Global Services - Network & Systems Management - Detroit

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