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Re: More fun unmanaging nodes

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Subject: Re: More fun unmanaging nodes
From: "Giuliotti, J. P." <JGiuliotti@MFS.COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:35:03 -0500
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Multiple maps were my problem all along. I had unmanaged all the objects in
my default map, but some of them were managed on other maps that were not
active.

I pulled the maps up one at a time and unmanaged the objects on each. This
caused them not to be processed by my ruleset.
Thanks for everyone's help.
J.P. Giuliotti  - Massachusetts Financial Services
(617) 954-5684
JPG@MFS.COM

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Ray Schafer [SMTP:schafer@tkg.com]
        Sent:   Tuesday, December 15, 1998 12:12 AM
        To:     NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
        Subject:        Re: More fun unmanaging nodes

        If you select an object in a map that is already managed, and
re-manage
        the object, the OVW Maps Managed field will increase by one for that
        object and the objects under it.  If you then unmanage it, it
becomes
        unmanaged in the current map, but the managed count is now wrong. I
        believe it to be a defect as well.  It should check the current map
        status and only increment/decrement the managed count if there is a
        change in managed state in the current map (IMHO).  The ovmapcount
-a
        can be run without bringing down the map.

        Leslie Clark wrote:
        >
        > And if you have only one map and Object Info shows 2, run
ovmapcount -a. I
        > don't
        > know what causes this but I have been seeing it rather frequently.
Maybe
        > somebody
        > should call it in....
        >
        > Cordially,
        >
        > Leslie A. Clark
        > IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
        > (248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager
        >
        > Have you got more than one map?
        > If so, then the node may not be unmanaged in all maps, just on
yours.
        > To find out, select it and press the right mouse button and select
Describe
        > Object.  (Or you can also check the status with ovobjprint -s
        > <selection-name> outside the GUI if you like.)  If the status
doesn't say
        > "unmanaged" then it really isn't.  Check the map count.  If it is
greater
        > than 1, then you need to unmanaged the node on the other map as
well to get
        > the behavior you want.
        >
        > James Shanks
        > Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
        >
        > "Giuliotti, J. P." <JGiuliotti@MFS.COM> on 12/10/98 03:54:04 PM
        >
        > Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager
on
        >       NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
        >
        > To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
        > cc:    (bcc: James Shanks)
        > Subject:  More fun unmanaging nodes
        >
        > I have selected nodes to be unmanaged yet I can still demand poll
them.
        > Other nodes that I have unmanaged in the past respond to a demand
poll with
        > "Node is Unmanaged" and do not get processed by my rule set. Do I
have to
        > wait a specific time (Maybe something I can modify in snmp
configuration?)?
        >
        > Thanks
        > J.P. Giuliotti  - Massachusetts Financial Services
        > (617) 954-5684
        > JPG@MFS.COM


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