I strongly agree with Leslie. At HP we support the operations of an
independent user forum (OpenView Forum International) and their
mailing list, but it must be driven by the users. HP staff that
participate in the forums (NetView, OpenView, IETF groups etc) also do
it as individuals in their spare time.
I would encourage the NetView Community to have a look at how OVForum
has done it and maybe contact one of the board of directors to get
some ideas, hint and maybe even some help. Have a look at
http://www.ovforum.org/.
I have noticed that some people on the OVForum mailing list is also
active on this list. Maybe you could give us your opinion and ideas on
how this list can continue.
A web-based support system (the Cisco example) is another issue that
should be run by Tivoli, but without connection to this mailing list.
- Michael.
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Subject: Re: NV-L Needs a New Home by the End of February
Author: Non-HP-lclark (lclark@US.IBM.COM) at HP-Belgium,mimegw3
Date: 21-12-98 15:24
IBM/Tivoli already 'picks up the tab' on such a service. You pay for
support and
you get to ask questions electronically. This forum is entirely different,
and if
you think about it, I'm sure you can appreciate the benefits of an
independant
forum. Here, you get to exchange criticism, information on competing
products,
free-enterprise marketing, all sorts of things that you might reasonably
expect
a vendor-supported site to filter out in its own self-interest. Also, you
might
expect a vendor to charge a fee to staff such a site. The IBMers who
participate
in this independant forum do so as individuals on a voluntary basis in
their
'free time'. All of the traditional reasons for the existence of product
User Groups
apply, and I certainly hope and expect this listserver to continue in
another home.
That's what I think.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
I think someone should tell tivoli or ibm to pick up the tab on this one.
I
think they should
buy the server and put it on there. They could provide a much better
service
than anyone
else considering that they can get discount prices on servers. They also
have
huge internet
connections. What does everyone else think.
JGiuliotti%MFS.COM@interlock.lexmark.com on 12/18/98 09:51:30 PM
Please respond to NV-L%ucsbvm.ucsb.edu@interlock.lexmark.com
To: NV-L%ucsbvm.ucsb.edu@interlock.lexmark.com
cc: (bcc: Dan Cox/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: Re: NV-L Needs a New Home by the End of February
OH NO!
Please can someone continue this? It is my only light in a never ending
fog!
J.P. Giuliotti - Massachusetts Financial Services
(617) 954-5684
JPG@MFS.COM
-----Original Message-----
From: Dwight McCann [SMTP:dwight@TRIXIE.UCSB.EDU]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 6:05 PM
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: NV-L Needs a New Home by the End of February
Importance: Low
The NV-L list needs a new home. My department has not used NetView
for
several years but has continued to maintain NV-L as a public
service.
The VM mainframe host on which NV-L is housed is slated to be
decommissioned. We do not plan to provide NV-L with a new home.
If
you can host NV-L, please let me know directly as I do not monitor
or
review the list.
--
Dwight M. McCann
Phone: 805-893-3113
FAX: 805-571-2606
mailto:dwight@trixie.ucsb.edu
http://borg.ucsb.edu/dmm/html/startframe.html
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