Thanks James :
I am going to do it.
regards,
Sergio Cardona F.
Vision Tech
James Shanks wrote:
> Sergio -
>
> There is an object database, a topology database, and a map database. In
> the map database, there are completely separate structures for each map.
> Each of these databases has entries which point to objects/structures in
> the others and these must remain in sync or you get the kind of failures
> you are seeing.
>
> I don't know how your system got into this condition, so that neither the
> network nor an object which belongs in the network are present in the
> object database. That means that there are "orphan" objects in your
> topology database. Do an ovtopodump -v and redirect that to a file. The
> edit the file and find those objects. They have to be there. You should
> be able to get from them a selection name. Then you should be able to try
> to locate that name on (all) your map(s). If you find them, then delete
> them from all submaps. You must check each map you have (ovwls will tell
> you their names so that you may open them). If you tell me that you still
> cannot find these things on your maps, then, you should call Support and
> tell them about it. They will help you through a procedure to delete such
> objects which can be used as a last resort, but not without a complete
> backup of /usr/OV/databases/openview.
> The Support folks will also want to know what preceded this problem. Were
> you doing maintenance and it failed? Did a daemon (netmon/ovwdb/ovtopmd)
> or your GUI (ipmap) core? This is not a normal occurrence.
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
> Sergio Cardona F <sergcafe@apolo.visiontech.com.co> on 02/01/99 05:13:02 PM
>
> Please respond to sergcafe@visiontech.com.co
>
> To: James Shanks
> cc: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> Subject: Re: database error
>
> Hi James:
> I searched the object by the number, but is not in the database, is
> possible
> that one map know
> one object that is not in the database of objects?
>
> thanks in advance,
>
> Sergio Cardona.
> Vision Tech
> James_Shanks@tivoli.com wrote:
>
> > No, it is NOT the OID. It is a unique identifier to distinguish this
> > object from all others in the NetView database. There can be many
> objects
> > with the same OID, but only one will have that number.
> >
> > Finding it on the map is two-step process. First you find it in the
> object
> > datbase to obtain the selection name and then you locate that on the map.
> > Start with ovobjprint -o <object id) and find out what this thing is
> > called. Then open your read-write map, pull down Locate, then Objects,
> and
> > then by selection name.
> >
> > James Shanks
> > Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
> >
> > Sergio Cardona F <sergcafe@apolo.visiontech.com.co> on 02/01/99 11:36:44
> AM
> >
> > Please respond to sergcafe@visiontech.com.co
> >
> > To: James Shanks
> > cc: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> > <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> > Subject: Re: database error
> >
> > Thanks James:
> >
> > But, How can I find one object in the maps by its number ?.
> > One question more, this number is the oid ?.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sergio Cardona.
> > Vision Tech
> >
> > James_Shanks@tivoli.com wrote:
> >
> > > What about object 48955? That's the one causing the problem. ipmap
> > has
> > > been told by ovtopmd (the topology database manager) that he has an
> > update
> > > for that object, and the topology record says that it is in network
> > object
> > > 50057, but that does not exist (for somw reason or other). Can you
> find
> > > 48955 and delete it (from all submaps) so it can get re-discovered
> > > correctly?
> > >
> > > James Shanks
> > > Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
> > >
> > > Sergio Cardona F <sergcafe@apolo.visiontech.com.co> on 01/30/99
> 01:28:14
> > PM
> > >
> > > Please respond to sergcafe@visiontech.com.co
> > >
> > > To: NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> > > cc: (bcc: James Shanks)
> > > Subject: Re: database error
> > >
> > > Hi All:
> > > Yes, I made a mistake , but I made the ovobjprint with -o and this
> > object
> > > is
> > > not int the database.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Sergio Cardona.
> > > Vision Tech.
> > >
> > > Leslie Clark wrote:
> > >
> > > > See the man page for ovobjprint. -s is for selection name, -o is for
> > > > objectid.
> > > >
> > > > I see those from time to time and and have assumed they were netview
> > > > talking to itself. It would be good to know if they indicate a
> problem.
> > > > Anybody
> > > > know?
> > > >
> > > > Cordially,
> > > >
> > > > Leslie A. Clark
> > > > IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> > > >
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > We have NetView 5.1 with aix 4.2.1 in a HACMP enviroment.
> > > > I have this case:
> > > > When the netview goes up, it puts some errors in the nettl.LOG00,
> these
> > > > errors
> > > > look like:
> > > >
> > ========================================================================
> > > > ************************************ NetView
> > > > *******************************@#%
> > > >
> > > > Timestamp : Fri Jan 29 1999 17:48:15.900794
> > > > Process ID : 17878 Subsystem : OVW
> > > > User ID ( UID ) : 203 Log Class : ERROR
> > > > Device ID : -1 Path ID : -1
> > > > Connection ID : -1 Log Instance : 0
> > > >
> > > > Software : /usr/OV/bin/ipmap
> > > > Hostname : antioquia.bancolombia
> > > >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > Unable to find network 50057 which contains node 48955
> > > >
> > ========================================================================
> > > >
> > > > I search in the database with the ovobjprint -s 50057 and it returns
> > me:
> > > > Object 50057 not found.
> > > > OBJECTID SELECTION NAME
> > > >
> > > > ****** NO SUCH OBJECT ID ******
> > > >
> > > > Could you tell me what it means ?
> > > > I suppose that I have one map with this ghost symbol, but I do not
> > know
> > > > how to
> > > > locate this object.
> > > > I already deleted all ghost symbols in all maps and I make ovmapcount
> > and
> > > a
> > > > ovtopofix, but the problem continues.
> > > > How can I locate this type of symbols by the number ?
> > > > How can I fix it ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Sergio Cardona
> > > > Vision Tech
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