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Re: Netview and web

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Subject: Re: Netview and web
From: James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:26:33 -0400
You can send your comments to netview@tivoli.com as always.  They are made part
of a database which is reviewed by the NetView product manager, among others.
But you will not get any response.  If you want a formal requirement, where you
get a response back from development within some specified time period ( 30 - 90
days, I don't remember what) on whether they accept your requirement, then  you
should call Support or your local Tivoli marketing rep, and tell them you want
to open a requirement.  But you will not get a timeframe commitment as to when
your requirement will appear in code, even if it is accepted.  If you want to be
party to current plans and have access to beta code, then you need to tell your
marketing rep you want to be non-disclosed  and a "lighthouse" customer.  If
development agrees, then you get access to plans and so on, provided you agree
to meet their test requirements.

I cannot comment on plans (I don't know them)  but if you stop to think about
what is going on here, then perhaps you will see why the current design requires
an open map.  The web client code  "just" translates part of the X GUI into
something you can see with the browser.  There are no static pages; it has to be
done dynamically.  And if you look at the NetView Programming Guide and the
Programming Reference, you will see that all the calls for map stuff (OVwxxxx)
require that you have done an OVwInit, which requires an open map  ( or to put
it more obviously, the API to the map database is an ovw API, so ovw, the main
NetView GUI, must be running somewhere).

 So to do it without an open map, you would have to take the all current ovw
function and rewrite it from the ground up.  Easy? Simple? Quick?  No,
definitely not.   Possible?  Sure, given enough time and money ....   The web
client is being improved over time but whether it will get to where you want it,
I cannot say.

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



Sean Aaron <sean.aaron@UCOP.EDU> on 10/07/99 12:35:34 PM

Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
      <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>

To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject:  Re: Netview and web




Andre Faille wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> any one knows how to modify the web interface on Netview?
>
> I created some tools with the MIBs and would like for them to be available
> via the web interface.... can anybody help?
>
> thanks,


On a related topic, any plans to change the behavior of the web piece so
it doesn't require an active map from the server running?  We have
netview running on a headless machine and monitor through a client.  I
have to keep an exported gui running on my desktop just so people can
use the web and that isn't very slick.

Who can I write to about this, if it isn't already on the table?

--
Sean Aaron
UNIX System Administrator
University of California
Office of the President


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