Andre - NetView and OpenView have not shared the same code base for LONG time -
in fact the NetView web client is in no way related to the OpenView web features
- I don't think the web existed at the time NetView came out of OpenView and
there has been no co-development since then...
Sean - you stated the following <from the response you got back from Tivoli>
>... run through a browser as javascript or as a standalone java
client...woohoo!
as a minor correction, the new 6.0 web client does not use javaScript at all -
the browser piece and the stand alone application are exactly the same front end
- only difference is, one is running as a java applet (browser) and one is
running as a java application - still should be pretty cool ;-)
jason
Andre Faille <Andre.Faille@SITA.INT> on 10/07/99 02:37:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Netview and web
Thanks for your answer James,
but.... since Netview is using the old code from HP OpenView as a base and
since HP OpenView 6.0x can show up any MIB app that I design via it's web
interface under the Monitor Menu.... I am wondering why Netview cannot do
the same thing???
Andre
James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> on 10/07/99 12:26:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Netview and web
You can send your comments to netview@tivoli.com as always. They are made
part
of a database which is reviewed by the NetView product manager, among
others.
But you will not get any response. If you want a formal requirement, where
you
get a response back from development within some specified time period ( 30
- 90
days, I don't remember what) on whether they accept your requirement, then
you
should call Support or your local Tivoli marketing rep, and tell them you
want
to open a requirement. But you will not get a timeframe commitment as to
when
your requirement will appear in code, even if it is accepted. If you want
to be
party to current plans and have access to beta code, then you need to tell
your
marketing rep you want to be non-disclosed and a "lighthouse" customer.
If
development agrees, then you get access to plans and so on, provided you
agree
to meet their test requirements.
I cannot comment on plans (I don't know them) but if you stop to think
about
what is going on here, then perhaps you will see why the current design
requires
an open map. The web client code "just" translates part of the X GUI into
something you can see with the browser. There are no static pages; it has
to be
done dynamically. And if you look at the NetView Programming Guide and the
Programming Reference, you will see that all the calls for map stuff
(OVwxxxx)
require that you have done an OVwInit, which requires an open map ( or to
put
it more obviously, the API to the map database is an ovw API, so ovw, the
main
NetView GUI, must be running somewhere).
So to do it without an open map, you would have to take the all current
ovw
function and rewrite it from the ground up. Easy? Simple? Quick? No,
definitely not. Possible? Sure, given enough time and money .... The
web
client is being improved over time but whether it will get to where you
want it,
I cannot say.
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
Sean Aaron <sean.aaron@UCOP.EDU> on 10/07/99 12:35:34 PM
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cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject: Re: Netview and web
Andre Faille wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> any one knows how to modify the web interface on Netview?
>
> I created some tools with the MIBs and would like for them to be
available
> via the web interface.... can anybody help?
>
> thanks,
On a related topic, any plans to change the behavior of the web piece so
it doesn't require an active map from the server running? We have
netview running on a headless machine and monitor through a client. I
have to keep an exported gui running on my desktop just so people can
use the web and that isn't very slick.
Who can I write to about this, if it isn't already on the table?
--
Sean Aaron
UNIX System Administrator
University of California
Office of the President
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