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Re: Unable to discover nodes using SNMP status Was: OIDs Seedfiles and S

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Subject: Re: Unable to discover nodes using SNMP status Was: OIDs Seedfiles and SNMP status polling
From: "Darrell W. Perreira" <perreirad002@hawaii.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:06:18 -1000
Why won't your Firewall people allow ping in one direction from Netview
only?

Darrell

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane Curry" <jane.curry@skills-1st.co.uk>
To: "IBM NetView Discussion" <nv-l@tkg.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Unable to discover nodes using SNMP status Was: [NV-L] OIDs
Seedfiles and SNMP status polling


> I do not believe discovery can work unless you can get at least 1 ping
> through the firewall.  If you watch your ping queue (netmon -a 12 and
> tail /usr/OV/log/netmon.trace) you will see nodes that have been
> detected through the discovery algorithm, appear on the ping queue.
> However, NetView won't put nopdes into the object database unless he has
> done a siuccessful ping.  The "poll via SNMP" mechanism only seems to
> cut in ONCE the node is in the database.
>
> I have 2 solutions, neither ideal:
> 1) Negotiate a "discovery window" with your fiirewall guys when they
> open up ping on the firewall (I have been successful with this,
> particularly if you are trying to manage a DMZ - you may find they are
> prepared to disconnect from the Internet for a window and enable ping
> for you.  I suggest you have a good seedfile ready to speed up your
> doscovery).
> 2) Manually add all devices beyond the firewall - if the number of
> devices is small, this isn't prohibitive.
>
> A third option I haven't tried but which might work is to add into the
> database using loadhosts.  With all of these, I assume you have SNMP
> polling setup in your seedfile for the relevant nodes.
>
> If you try to get around this with MLM, you find exactly the same thing
> - MLM discovers nodes, tells NetView, but again NetView doesn't add to
> the database until he has got a ping through.
>
> Has anyone else got any input to this??  I have now seen the same
> requirement with a number of customers and we are so close to having a
> good solution.  If the discovery algorithm might be tweaked to no longer
> mandate a successful ping before entry into the database, particularly
> if nodes are designated SNMP-poll or discovered via MLM.
>
> Cheers, Jane
>
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