RE: Maps keep on Synchronize

[z_esm_karekars <z_esm_karekars@bharatpetroleum.com>]

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> Hi James, 
> 
> Thanx, James I use small a i.e. ovtopofix -a, and not A. Actually I had
> created one main map for central administrator and copied the same map as
> other regional administrators and removed unwanted objects. After this I
> had done ovtopofix. Will this make difference if I create one map at each
> time and do the topofix every time I create the map ?
> 
> After the first time synchronization if I close the map next time I open
> the same map again it starts synchronization, is it normal or wrong
> configuration, if wrong configuration how can I fix it ?
> 
> Regarding the Blue objects actually after the synchronization gets over
> the status gets updated to normal and colour gets changed to green or
> yellow hence it is not cut-paste mistake.
> 
> Please advice ASAP. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Santosh 
> 
> ---------- 
> From:   James Shanks[SMTP:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com] 
> Reply To:       IBM NetView Discussion 
> Sent:   Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:08 PM 
> To:     IBM NetView Discussion 
> Subject:        Re: [NV-L] Maps keep on Synchronize 
> 
>  You can expect slow synchronization of a new map, because
> synchronization 
> is the process whereby the open map is made current by the data from the 
> topology database.  How did you run ovtopofix?  With the -a (little a) 
> option or the -A (big A) option?  Once you have more than one map, you 
> should be running the -a option only, as the man page will tell you, else 
> you will bring about the need to update every object on every map, not
> just 
> the ones which have recently changed.  In any case, synchronization is 
> required, and it will be slow at least for the first time for every new
> map 
> you create. 
> 
> The blue stuff means that somehow in your customization you have made an 
> error during your cut-and-paste operations.  Either you have moved things 
> illegally and now the are in the user plane (they will have a shadow
> around 
> them if this is the case) or you have removed some underlying object whose
> 
> status is to be propagated up to give the blue thing (node, segment, 
> network) its status, and without something below it, it has none of its 
> own.   You will have to look into each case individually and compare what 
> is on the default map, which is presumably OK,  with what you have on each
> 
> of  the new maps, to see what is wrong.  This will be  a case-by-case 
> thing. 
> 
> Perhaps you would be better off by deleting 6 of your seven maps and 
> starting over, fixing that one, before creating others.  I have never
> heard 
> of anyone successfully building seven new maps at one time. 
> 
> Each map can have a default submap and this is set on a per map basis from
> 
> the GUI.  It cannot be different for a different user.  I take it that is 
> why you decided to create seven maps in the first place, so that each user
> 
> could have his own map.  Well, each user can set the default submap (or
> you 
> can do it in each amp before you give it to them) under the File --> 
> Describe Map function when the map is opened read-write.  You cannot 
> specify it on the startup command. 
> 
> To set it, each user brings up the map in question  "netview -map ABC -rw"
> 
> (note that this is the same command as the archaic "nv6000" which has been
> 
> deprecated and will disappear in some future release, so you should get in
> 
> the habit of using "netview").   Once the map is open read-write by that 
> user, he can make it his default map (using File --> Open Map)   as well
> as 
> set the default home submap (by using File -->Describe Map).  Then he will
> 
> just have to type in "netview"  next time and he will get the correct map 
> opened to the correct submap. 
> 
> 
> My advice is to pursue your customization in small steps.  That way when 
> you make a mistake, and you will because everyone does, you will not have 
> so much to do to recover. 
> 
> Hope this helps. 
> 
> James Shanks 
> Team Leader, Level 3 Support 
> Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT 
> 
> 
> z_esm_karekars <z_esm_karekars@bharatpetroleum.com>@tkg.com on 07/05/2001 
> 03:09:34 AM 
> 
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> Subject:  [NV-L] Maps keep on Synchronize 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I had NetView 6.0.1 on AIX 4.3.3 on RS 6000 with 1 GB Memory 
> 
> I had created 7 maps for different users, after creation of all the map I 
> had done topofix. But when ever I start any of the map it keeps on 
> synchronizing for quite good amount of time and during this
> synchronization 
> the operations over the map goes very slow. 
> 
> It is also observed that from the customized Maps Router interfaces goes 
> off and routers become blue, as well as the connections created between
> the 
> object. 
> 
> Can U advice which configuration I need to check to restore the problem. 
> 
> Can I keep only one database for all the Maps ? 
> Can I open Submap with nv6000 command just like we give command to open
> map 
> i.e. nv6000 -map ABC Can this map be replaced by submap option to open a 
> submap in the default map. 
> 
> Please reply ASAP this is very critical 
> 
> Regards, 
> Santosh 
> 
> 
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Hi James,

Thanx, James I use small a i.e. ovtopofix -a, and not A. Actually I had created one main map for central administrator and copied the same map as other regional administrators and removed unwanted objects. After this I had done ovtopofix. Will this make difference if I create one map at each time and do the topofix every time I create the map ?

After the first time synchronization if I close the map next time I open the same map again it starts synchronization, is it normal or wrong configuration, if wrong configuration how can I fix it ?

Regarding the Blue objects actually after the synchronization gets over the status gets updated to normal and colour gets changed to green or yellow hence it is not cut-paste mistake.

Please advice ASAP.

Regards,
Santosh

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From:   James Shanks[SMTP:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com]
Reply To:       IBM NetView Discussion
Sent:   Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:08 PM
To:     IBM NetView Discussion
Subject:        Re: [NV-L] Maps keep on Synchronize

 You can expect slow synchronization of a new map, because  synchronization
is the process whereby the open map is made current by the data from the
topology database.  How did you run ovtopofix?  With the -a (little a)
option or the -A (big A) option?  Once you have more than one map, you
should be running the -a option only, as the man page will tell you, else
you will bring about the need to update every object on every map, not just
the ones which have recently changed.  In any case, synchronization is
required, and it will be slow at least for the first time for every new map
you create.

The blue stuff means that somehow in your customization you have made an
error during your cut-and-paste operations.  Either you have moved things
illegally and now the are in the user plane (they will have a shadow around
them if this is the case) or you have removed some underlying object whose
status is to be propagated up to give the blue thing (node, segment,
network) its status, and without something below it, it has none of its
own.   You will have to look into each case individually and compare what
is on the default map, which is presumably OK,  with what you have on each
of  the new maps, to see what is wrong.  This will be  a case-by-case
thing.

Perhaps you would be better off by deleting 6 of your seven maps and
starting over, fixing that one, before creating others.  I have never heard
of anyone successfully building seven new maps at one time.

Each map can have a default submap and this is set on a per map basis from
the GUI.  It cannot be different for a different user.  I take it that is
why you decided to create seven maps in the first place, so that each user
could have his own map.  Well, each user can set the default submap (or you
can do it in each amp before you give it to them) under the File -->
Describe Map function when the map is opened read-write.  You cannot
specify it on the startup command.

To set it, each user brings up the map in question  "netview -map ABC -rw"
(note that this is the same command as the archaic "nv6000" which has been
deprecated and will disappear in some future release, so you should get in
the habit of using "netview").   Once the map is open read-write by that
user, he can make it his default map (using File --> Open Map)   as well as
set the default home submap (by using File -->Describe Map).  Then he will
just have to type in "netview"  next time and he will get the correct map
opened to the correct submap.




My advice is to pursue your customization in small steps.  That way when
you make a mistake, and you will because everyone does, you will not have
so much to do to recover.

Hope this helps.

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT




z_esm_karekars <z_esm_karekars@bharatpetroleum.com>@tkg.com on 07/05/2001
03:09:34 AM

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Hi,

I had NetView 6.0.1 on AIX 4.3.3 on RS 6000 with 1 GB Memory

I had created 7 maps for different users, after creation of all the map I
had done topofix. But when ever I start any of the map it keeps on
synchronizing for quite good amount of time and during this synchronization
the operations over the map goes very slow.

It is also observed that from the customized Maps Router interfaces goes
off and routers become blue, as well as the connections created between the
object.

Can U advice which configuration I need to check to restore the problem.

Can I keep only one database for all the Maps ?
Can I open Submap with nv6000 command just like we give command to open map
i.e. nv6000 -map ABC Can this map be replaced by submap option to open a
submap in the default map.

Please reply ASAP this is very critical

Regards,
Santosh





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