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Re: FW: Questions on NV 6.0.2 on Windows 2000

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Subject: Re: FW: Questions on NV 6.0.2 on Windows 2000
From: awatthey@mmm.com
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:52:26 +0100

Jeff,

We use Tivoli Remote Control for remote control of our W2K Netview servers.  We
have had no problems so far using this.

We use the inbuilt Netview database so can't comment on SQL.

The Netview user has to be logged on locally for WEB clients to work so Terminal
Services would be useless in any case.  You would not be able to get to this
user when working through it.  Netview would need a 'bit' of a redesign in this
area to support it.  Also, having multiple users logged on to the Netview server
all doing possible updates to the database might not be a good idea.

Alan.




Jeff Law <jlaw@ems-global.com> on 21/09/2001 06:59:39

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cc:    (bcc: Alan Watthey/UK-Europe/3M/US)
Subject:  FW: [NV-L] Questions on NV 6.0.2 on Windows 2000



Well I have managed to figure out what was going on with the SQL stuff. I
found the log file and it was trying to run the create_sqldb.bat file which
is for SQL 6.5. There is another batch file called create_sql7.bat, which
not suprisingly is for SQL 7.

They are different in the way they create the table, so when it prompted me
for the retry/cancel option, I copied the create_sql7.bat over the the top
of create_sql.bat, and then pressed the Retry button. Away it went,
completing the install.

It appears to be working fine, but we will have to wait and see. If anyone
has been down this path and found out it still doesnt work properly, I would
be interested in your experiance.

I am still interested in how people are remotely managing their servers if
you cant use Terminal Services. We have used VNC in the past, but the screen
refresh, or lack of it on occasions, drives us nuts.


Regards
Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Law [mailto:jlaw@ems-global.com]
Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:42 a.m.
To: IBM NetView Discussion (E-mail)
Subject: [NV-L] Questions on NV 6.0.2 on Windows 2000



Hi,

 I am testing NetVIew on Window 2000 platfrom to see how it compares with
the Solaris platfrom.

I have a few questions about the installation as I am having trouble with a
couple of things.

As well as Windows 2000, we also use MS SQL 2000 as the standard database. I
havent found any reference to SQL2000 which could be part of my problem.

1, Terminal Services support.

I notice by its behaviour, and searching through the archives, that the
terminal services functionality is not supported in NetView. Is it likely to
be and any ideas when? (I have since removed Terminal Services)

2, SQL database/NetView account

In trying to use SQL 2000, I keep getting an installation error that NetView
could not set up the databases correctly when it is setting up the ODBC
databases. Initially I thought this was a SQL2000 compatibility issue, but I
notice that the installation always creates a local NetView user on the
machine even when the nvinstall -nu command is given. (preference is to use
a domain account) which I have created and setup in SQL2000 in the
appropriate groups for security.

I suppose the question here really is, can NetView be installed in this
environment, even if it means a lot of manual tweaking, or should I give up
as it will never work in this version?




Regards
Jeff


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Well I have managed to figure out what was going on with the SQL stuff. I found the log file and it was trying to run the create_sqldb.bat file which is for SQL 6.5. There is another batch file called create_sql7.bat, which not suprisingly is for SQL 7.
 
They are different in the way they create the table, so when it prompted me for the retry/cancel option, I copied the create_sql7.bat over the the top of create_sql.bat, and then pressed the Retry button. Away it went, completing the install.
 
It appears to be working fine, but we will have to wait and see. If anyone has been down this path and found out it still doesnt work properly, I would be interested in your experiance.
 
I am still interested in how people are remotely managing their servers if you cant use Terminal Services. We have used VNC in the past, but the screen refresh, or lack of it on occasions, drives us nuts.
 
 
Regards
Jeff
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Law [mailto:jlaw@ems-global.com]
Sent: Friday, 21 September 2001 10:42 a.m.
To: IBM NetView Discussion (E-mail)
Subject: [NV-L] Questions on NV 6.0.2 on Windows 2000

Hi,

 I am testing NetVIew on Window 2000 platfrom to see how it compares with the Solaris platfrom.

I have a few questions about the installation as I am having trouble with a couple of things.

As well as Windows 2000, we also use MS SQL 2000 as the standard database. I havent found any reference to SQL2000 which could be part of my problem.

1, Terminal Services support.

I notice by its behaviour, and searching through the archives, that the terminal services functionality is not supported in NetView. Is it likely to be and any ideas when? (I have since removed Terminal Services)

2, SQL database/NetView account

In trying to use SQL 2000, I keep getting an installation error that NetView could not set up the databases correctly when it is setting up the ODBC databases. Initially I thought this was a SQL2000 compatibility issue, but I notice that the installation always creates a local NetView user on the machine even when the nvinstall -nu command is given. (preference is to use a domain account) which I have created and setup in SQL2000 in the appropriate groups for security.

I suppose the question here really is, can NetView be installed in this environment, even if it means a lot of manual tweaking, or should I give up as it will never work in this version?




Regards
Jeff


______________________________________________________________
Jeff Law                            Email: jlaw@ems-global.com
Technical Consultant                    Mobile: +64 21 664 595
                                                 DDI: +64 7 854 7369

EMS-Global Ltd                           Voice: +64 9 359 7003
P O Box 17 344                             Fax: +64 9 300 6494
Auckland
NEW ZEALAND                          http://www.ems-global.com
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This message and any attachment(s) are confidential and proprietary. They may also be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. 

If you are not the intended recipient, advise the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system.  If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to use or copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person.

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