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RE: NV 6.0.2 with Framework to NV 7.1 without Framework

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Subject: RE: NV 6.0.2 with Framework to NV 7.1 without Framework
From: "Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:42:33 -0600
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Framework only has a problem if you change the name of the box, not the
address.

-----Original Message-----
From: CATALINA MARTINEZ [mailto:CATALINA.MARTINEZ@tlc.state.tx.us]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:37 PM
To: nv-l@tkg.com
Subject: Re: [NV-L] NV 6.0.2 with Framework to NV 7.1 without Framework


James,
 
Will this eliminate future problems with changing the IP address/name of the
Netview Server. With the current Framework/Netview setup, it was not
recommended to change the address/name of the server, since Framework did
not like it. So if I am planning to upgrade to 7.1 without Framework, once I
am ready to move it to production, I want to change the iP address/name will
there be any problems since Framework was initally installed?
 
Thanks
Catalina 
AIX 433 Netview 602 Framework 371

>>> jshanks@us.ibm.com 12/13/01 10:47AM >>>

I think you may misunderstand how migration works on UNIX. 

To migrate to 7.1, even with the Framework, you would 
        (1) take a backup of all the user date using the backup function
from "Maintain" on serversetup 
                This creates a directory structure of user data in
/usr/OV.back.v6r1 
        (2) then you de-install NetView  from serversetup 
        (2) then you install 7.1 using the upgrade function specifically

                This finds that directory structure and merges in the data
in it. 
                You can remove that directory structure as soon as you are
comfortable. 

If you are using the Framework for this, then you install using the Tivoli
desktop.  If you aren't using the Framework, even if it is installed, you
mount the 7.1 CD and from that directory you issue "instalnv -k
[SERVER|CLIENT | BOOKS] -u  as appropriate.  But you still follow the same
basic procedure as above. 

The "frameworkless" install will work just fine with the Framework still
installed, but you will not be able to upgrade the FW later and connect it
to the installed NetView.  They will remain entirely separate.  To connect
them again, you would have to backup and de-install that 7.1 and then
reinstall it again using the FW. 
Nothing would be lost however because you would have created another backup
directory structure first. 

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group





        Michel.Grossenbacher@coop.ch 
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12/13/2001 11:28 AM 
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Hy all

AIX 4.3.3 ML 8
NV 6.0.2

I would like to know if it is possible to migrate a working NV 6.0.2
Installation with Framework to the new NV 7.1 without Framework? 
The problem is, that our Framework is out of date for the NV 7.1 and our
Tivoli people wont upgrade the Framework to the Version 7.1 requires, so I
have to install the whole thing without.

Is it possible to migrate it or do I have to completly deinstall the 6.0.2
before?

Thanks in advance

Michel Grossenbacher

Coop
Michel Grossenbacher
Informatik/Netzwerke
NMS Verantwortlicher
Telefon: +41 61 319 17 68
Telefax: +41 61 319 17 62
michel.grossenbacher@coop.ch
_________________________________________________________________________
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Framework only has a problem if you change the name of the box, not the address.
-----Original Message-----
From: CATALINA MARTINEZ [mailto:CATALINA.MARTINEZ@tlc.state.tx.us]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:37 PM
To: nv-l@tkg.com
Subject: Re: [NV-L] NV 6.0.2 with Framework to NV 7.1 without Framework

James,
 
Will this eliminate future problems with changing the IP address/name of the Netview Server. With the current Framework/Netview setup, it was not recommended to change the address/name of the server, since Framework did not like it. So if I am planning to upgrade to 7.1 without Framework, once I am ready to move it to production, I want to change the iP address/name will there be any problems since Framework was initally installed?
 
Thanks
Catalina
AIX 433 Netview 602 Framework 371

>>> jshanks@us.ibm.com 12/13/01 10:47AM >>>

I think you may misunderstand how migration works on UNIX.

To migrate to 7.1, even with the Framework, you would
        (1) take a backup of all the user date using the backup function from "Maintain" on serversetup
                This creates a directory structure of user data in /usr/OV.back.v6r1
        (2) then you de-install NetView  from serversetup
        (2) then you install 7.1 using the upgrade function specifically        
                This finds that directory structure and merges in the data in it.
                You can remove that directory structure as soon as you are comfortable.

If you are using the Framework for this, then you install using the Tivoli desktop.  If you aren't using the Framework, even if it is installed, you mount the 7.1 CD and from that directory you issue "instalnv -k  [SERVER|CLIENT | BOOKS] -u  as appropriate.  But you still follow the same basic procedure as above.

The "frameworkless" install will work just fine with the Framework still installed, but you will not be able to upgrade the FW later and connect it to the installed NetView.  They will remain entirely separate.  To connect them again, you would have to backup and de-install that 7.1 and then reinstall it again using the FW.
Nothing would be lost however because you would have created another backup directory structure first.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group




Michel.Grossenbacher@coop.ch
Sent by: owner-nv-l@tkg.com

12/13/2001 11:28 AM
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Hy all

AIX 4.3.3 ML 8
NV 6.0.2

I would like to know if it is possible to migrate a working NV 6.0.2
Installation with Framework to the new NV 7.1 without Framework?
The problem is, that our Framework is out of date for the NV 7.1 and our
Tivoli people wont upgrade the Framework to the Version 7.1 requires, so I
have to install the whole thing without.

Is it possible to migrate it or do I have to completly deinstall the 6.0.2
before?

Thanks in advance

Michel Grossenbacher

Coop
Michel Grossenbacher
Informatik/Netzwerke
NMS Verantwortlicher
Telefon: +41 61 319 17 68
Telefax: +41 61 319 17 62
michel.grossenbacher@coop.ch
_________________________________________________________________________
NV-L List information and Archives: http://www.tkg.com/nv-l






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