Re: NV 6.0.2 with Framework to NV 7.1 without Framework

["James Shanks" <jshanks@us.ibm.com>]

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For NetView you will still have to run the /usr/OV/service/reset_ci 
command any time you change the address or hostname of the NetView box, or 
if you move the database from one machine to another.  That has always 
been true and still is.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
 





"CATALINA MARTINEZ" <CATALINA.MARTINEZ@tlc.state.tx.us>
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James,
 
Will this eliminate future problems with changing the IP address/name of 
the Netview Server. With the current Framework/Netview setup, it was not 
recommended to change the address/name of the server, since Framework did 
not like it. So if I am planning to upgrade to 7.1 without Framework, once 
I am ready to move it to production, I want to change the iP address/name 
will there be any problems since Framework was initally installed?
 
Thanks
Catalina 
AIX 433 Netview 602 Framework 371

>>> jshanks@us.ibm.com 12/13/01 10:47AM >>>

I think you may misunderstand how migration works on UNIX. 

To migrate to 7.1, even with the Framework, you would 
        (1) take a backup of all the user date using the backup function 
from "Maintain" on serversetup 
                This creates a directory structure of user data in 
/usr/OV.back.v6r1 
        (2) then you de-install NetView  from serversetup 
        (2) then you install 7.1 using the upgrade function specifically   
   
                This finds that directory structure and merges in the data 
in it. 
                You can remove that directory structure as soon as you are 
comfortable. 

If you are using the Framework for this, then you install using the Tivoli 
desktop.  If you aren't using the Framework, even if it is installed, you 
mount the 7.1 CD and from that directory you issue "instalnv -k 
[SERVER|CLIENT | BOOKS] -u  as appropriate.  But you still follow the same 
basic procedure as above. 

The "frameworkless" install will work just fine with the Framework still 
installed, but you will not be able to upgrade the FW later and connect it 
to the installed NetView.  They will remain entirely separate.  To connect 
them again, you would have to backup and de-install that 7.1 and then 
reinstall it again using the FW. 
Nothing would be lost however because you would have created another 
backup directory structure first. 

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group





Michel.Grossenbacher@coop.ch 
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Hy all

AIX 4.3.3 ML 8
NV 6.0.2

I would like to know if it is possible to migrate a working NV 6.0.2
Installation with Framework to the new NV 7.1 without Framework? 
The problem is, that our Framework is out of date for the NV 7.1 and our
Tivoli people wont upgrade the Framework to the Version 7.1 requires, so I
have to install the whole thing without.

Is it possible to migrate it or do I have to completly deinstall the 6.0.2
before?

Thanks in advance

Michel Grossenbacher

Coop
Michel Grossenbacher
Informatik/Netzwerke
NMS Verantwortlicher
Telefon: +41 61 319 17 68
Telefax: +41 61 319 17 62
michel.grossenbacher@coop.ch
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For NetView you will still have to run the /usr/OV/service/reset_ci command any time you change the address or hostname of the NetView box, or if you move the database from one machine to another.  That has always been true and still is.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group

"CATALINA MARTINEZ" <CATALINA.MARTINEZ@tlc.state.tx.us> Sent by: owner-nv-l@tkg.com 12/13/2001 01:36 PM Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion

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James,
 
Will this eliminate future problems with changing the IP address/name of the Netview Server. With the current Framework/Netview setup, it was not recommended to change the address/name of the server, since Framework did not like it. So if I am planning to upgrade to 7.1 without Framework, once I am ready to move it to production, I want to change the iP address/name will there be any problems since Framework was initally installed?
 
Thanks
Catalina 
AIX 433 Netview 602 Framework 371

>>> jshanks@us.ibm.com 12/13/01 10:47AM >>>

I think you may misunderstand how migration works on UNIX. 

To migrate to 7.1, even with the Framework, you would 
        (1) take a backup of all the user date using the backup function from "Maintain" on serversetup 
                This creates a directory structure of user data in /usr/OV.back.v6r1 
        (2) then you de-install NetView  from serversetup 
        (2) then you install 7.1 using the upgrade function specifically         
                This finds that directory structure and merges in the data in it. 
                You can remove that directory structure as soon as you are comfortable. 

If you are using the Framework for this, then you install using the Tivoli desktop.  If you aren't using the Framework, even if it is installed, you mount the 7.1 CD and from that directory you issue "instalnv -k  [SERVER|CLIENT | BOOKS] -u  as appropriate.  But you still follow the same basic procedure as above. 

The "frameworkless" install will work just fine with the Framework still installed, but you will not be able to upgrade the FW later and connect it to the installed NetView.  They will remain entirely separate.  To connect them again, you would have to backup and de-install that 7.1 and then reinstall it again using the FW. 
Nothing would be lost however because you would have created another backup directory structure first. 

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group

Michel.Grossenbacher@coop.ch Sent by: owner-nv-l@tkg.com 12/13/2001 11:28 AM Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion

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Hy all

AIX 4.3.3 ML 8
NV 6.0.2

I would like to know if it is possible to migrate a working NV 6.0.2
Installation with Framework to the new NV 7.1 without Framework? 
The problem is, that our Framework is out of date for the NV 7.1 and our
Tivoli people wont upgrade the Framework to the Version 7.1 requires, so I
have to install the whole thing without.

Is it possible to migrate it or do I have to completly deinstall the 6.0.2
before?

Thanks in advance

Michel Grossenbacher

Coop
Michel Grossenbacher
Informatik/Netzwerke
NMS Verantwortlicher
Telefon: +41 61 319 17 68
Telefax: +41 61 319 17 62
michel.grossenbacher@coop.ch
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