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From: "Karl Prinelle" <Karl.Prinelle@elyzium.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 11:08:27 +0100
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Jane,

Ah - I get it - a club thing ;-)  - is there a badge?
That helps a lot - at least to put what I'm reading in the right
perspective.  

I've been editing the .config file on the MLM & that's been ok, but I
can see it wouldn't be fun for anything other than a lab.  That said a
script with a bunch on snmpset's wouldn't be too bad I guess.

Attended MLM doesn't appeal - a nice "thin" MLM looks better since no
doubt it would be on non-dedicated hardware.

I think I'll poke around a bit more then wait patiently for 7.1.4 & see
what that brings in terms of Linux improvements.  It would be great to
get Linux level with AIX et al for Netview I have to say - they've made
a good start so far...

Thanks again

K

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jane Curry [mailto:jane.curry@skills-1st.co.uk] 
Sent: 05 September 2003 19:14
To: Karl Prinelle; NetView mailing list
Subject: Re: [nv-l] mlm on nt docs


Hi Karl,
Welcome to the "we want full support for MLM from Windows and Linux"
club!

The only formal doc for MLM is the MLM manual that I don't believe has 
been updated for many years and says virtually nothing about MLM on 
Windows (though generally the MLM functionality on Windows and Unix is 
very similar - the readme with the Windows MLM gives a section on 
differences and I believe discovery algorithms is one of those).

The big difference is how you manage an MLM from NetView, and NetView on

Windows or Linux is not a good answer!  The good news is that, provided 
you have the MLM SNMP agent setup to permit read/write access from a 
NetView (any NetView - in fact anything that can send SNMP SETs), you 
can configure the MLM with SNMP SETs.  It's a bit like doing assembler 
programming, but it is possible.

Your other option, if you have coommand line access to your MLM, is to 
manually edit the MLM config file and bounce the MLM - also not nice but

we are probably up to "programming in Algol" level.

You should certainly be able to get a Windows MLM to do data collecting 
and thresholding - I've got one (albeit configured with the APM facility

of NV on AIX) - that's the main MLM table I tend to use.

I'm pretty certain the last MLM drop was with NV 7.1.3 - certainly there

weas no MLM with NV 7.1.3 FP1.

I don't think a W2K NetView would buy you anything by way of 
functionality to help with MLM - same issues as Linux - no smconfig and 
no APM.

There is the concept of an attended MLM which is NV for Windows and MLM 
on the same box.  The idea is that you have a local NetView that users 
can run up the GUI on and that NetView also forwards stuff to a higher 
level NetView.  I certainly don't know many people using this.....

IBM / Tivoli - we seem to have had a bit of a run recently on bringing 
the NV on Linux up to the full NV on Unix spec...........!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
Jane


Karl Prinelle wrote:

> Hi list,
>  
> I'm having a poke around with MLM's in a lab & need a few pointers -
> alternatively it could just be Friday brain fade...
>  
> Environment: My lab has a Linux Netview 7.1.3+fp1 and w2k MLM.
> Netview reports that the MLM is up so I've obviously done something 
> right (!)
>  
> Questions:
> 1. Can anyone point me to any docs on mlm for NT?  I'm using the MLM
> Users guide, but it only mentions installing it & using a supported 
> unix to manage it through smconfig.  When I browsed the MLM mib 
> initially I noticed comments about "Netview for NT not installed, 
> discovery and thresholding not available" which doesn't sound great.  
> From the docs it seems I can delegate all this stuff?
>  
> 2. I know there is no MLM support for Linux, but I'm not clear about
> the detail of that statement.  Does this mean I can't use snmpset 
> (since there is no smconfig) from a Linux netview to configure an NT 
> MLM & have that NT MLM take on management functions in the same way it

> would if I had an AIX Netview?  If I can't then that would make my lab

> a well flogged dead horse ;-)
>  
> 3. I've noticed comments in the MLM mib tables about discovery sensor
> is not supported on NT, but any kind of restricted functionality 
> doesn't seem to be mentioned in the docs - have I been reading with my

> eyes closed again or are there restrictions?
>  
> 4. Is there a fp1 for the mlm?  Maybe a magic switch on the fp1
> installer to extract that bit??
>  
> 5. Would I get more out of my NT MLM if I had a full w2k Netview on
> the MLM machine - sounds a little odd to me but nonetheless possible..
>  
> Any help appreciated....
>  
> K
>  
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