Inaki,
What is your discovery setting set to?
Usually a subnet symbol that is brown means that NetView has been told to
discover the backbone only...and sees these subnets off the backbone
routers but will not discover the nodes into them until you actually manage
the subnet. This lets you do a 'controlled' discovery of the network.
In the mean time, NetView has read the arp cache of the backbone router and
'knows' about the hosts and puts 'hints' into the NetView database.
Usually this may be just a mac address or ip address of the device found in
the ARP cache. But if that ip address falls into a subnet that is brown
(unmanaged) then NetView will not ping or walk the MIB to bring the rest of
the information into the NetView database.
Of course this is my understanding of how things has worked in the past,
there are usually minor changes/improvements from release to release.
When I teach a NetView class I like to have the students discover the
network with different settings and then work with them to understand the
differences in the nodes showing up on the maps. Once they understand
those pictures, then the discovery settings of the product makes a lot of
sense to everyone.
Stephen Hochstetler shochste@us.ibm.com
International Technical Support Organization at IBM
Office - 512-838-6198 (t/l 678) FAX - 512-838-6931
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com
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Thanks both Oliver James, Yes I am running on Windows and I have seen
that the documentation for it is very limited when compared to the
manuals for Unix, so I am taking some time to read the Unix manuals.
I followed James advice(the same as yours Oliver), but the default map
was still the same, the nodes did not appeared.
With a trial and error process in the GUI, I selected one of the
subnets (symbol)where the hosts should appear, then went to Object -
> Discover and then the subnet symbol changed from brown to green and
all the hosts appeared.
What is the sequence of things that this triggered, I do not know, but
it did what I was trying to do... Of course I would like to make the
maps refresh automatically so this should not be the way of doing it.
Thanks guys for your help.
I will take a look at new discovered host in the ObjDB and see if I can
locate them in the map.
Inaki
<oliver.bruchhaeuser@de.ibm.com>:
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> Inaki,
>
> James is right. Of course. As always. For UNIX ;-)
>
> But you you are on Windows.
>
> Close the gui.
> ovmapcount -u
> ovstop netmon
> ovtopofix -a
> ovstart
> Open the gui and search again for those nodes.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Oliver Bruchhaeuser
> Tivoli NetView EMEA L2 Support
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> Did you read the man pages on ovtopofix? What options id you use on
> the
> command? "ovtopofix" by itself without any options will not help
> you.
> You need "ovtopofix -A" since you have only one map. When you
> next open
> the read-write map it will synchronize for a long time because you
> "ovtopofix -A" will cause ipmap to re-evaluate all the symbols on the
> map.
> Make sure the map you start says "Read-Write" at the bottom bar.
>
> As for not seeing the host, did you try the Locate function in the
> GUI? It
> may not be where you expect it. If you still don't see it after
> running
> "ovtopofix -A", and cannot locate it either, then take the GUI down
> and try
> running "ovtopofix -U <hostname>" as the man page directs. Then
> bring the
> read-write map back up and see what you can find.
>
> James Shanks
> Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
> Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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> When using the command "ovmapcount" the output does not contain many
> of
> the host that appaer with all their fields in the output
> of "ovobjprint".
>
> I just have one map, the default.
>
> I used "ovtopofix"(I had to stop netmon before) the output was
> just "done".
>
> No where in my map I see those host that I see in the object
> database
> (ovobjprint).
>
> All the daemons are running with the only exception of tecad_nv6k.
>
> Thanks for your help
> Inaki
>
>
>
> Quoting Leslie Clark <lclark@us.ibm.com>:
>
> > When you display the object info, there are two fields to look
> for:
> > 'maps
> > exists' and 'maps managed'. Check those numbers. If it says that
> the
> >
> > object exists in a map, then you must not be searching for it
> > correctly.
> > Try 'Locate..Object...by Attribute', scroll through the list until
> > you
> > find 'IP Address', and enter the address you are expecting, chose
> > 'Exact
> > match'. That should take you to the object. If you have more than
> one
> > map
> > (the default map is called 'default') then check both maps. Things
> > deleted
> > from one map cannot be rediscovered until they are deleted from
> all
> > maps.
> >
> > If the fields do not exist, then the object has not yet been
> placed
> > on the
> > map. Time for housekeeping. Use ovmapcount and ovtopofix (see the
> man
> >
> > pages) and close and open the map. Do the search again.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Leslie A. Clark
> > IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> > Detroit
> >
> >
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> > Subject: [nv-l] How to make appear in IP map
> something
> > in the object datbase?
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> >
> > Hi guys, maybe somebody already have ask this but I have not
> seen
> > it..
> > How can I make appear something that is in the object
> database(seen
> >
> > when "ovobjprint") in the IP Map? I have many things in the
> datanase
> >
> > but I am not capable to see it.
> > I tried to create an smartset with only this host but it says
> that
> >
> > it could not find the matching IP address.
> > Then I tried the loadhost command but it says host in already on
> > database, so I gues is simply a problem of learning to disply this
> > object, but I do not know how...
> >
> > I have NV 7.1.3 running on W2000 over Framework 4.1 and using
> > Microsoft SQL server 2000.
> >
> > Any help is very appreciated.
> >
> > Inaki
> >
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