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RE: [nv-l] The use of HTTP for node up/down instead of ping or sn mp ?

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] The use of HTTP for node up/down instead of ping or sn mp ?
From: "Duppong, Jason" <jason.duppong@thomson.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:20:46 -0600
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Paul,
Thanks for the info I'll look into it.  Would this happen to be documented
anywhere?

Jason

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [nv-l] The use of HTTP for node up/down instead of ping or snmp
?


Jason,
There is a trap in NetView 58916971(I believe that is correct) that will
allow the user to change the color of a device on the map with this trap.
Its fairly easy to use.

Paul


Duppong, Jason wrote:

> Hi Larry,
> I'm in the middle of writing a script that will be responsible for
> testing "basic functionality" of all our production Windows and Unix 
> boxes.  The systems will be tested using a combination of Samba and 
> sshquery.pl.  Our thinking is that when a basic function check fails 
> it would send a trap to the Netview management server causing another 
> product we are using to do network correlation.  The function checks 
> run in parallel with the normal SNMP and ICMP checks that Netview 
> does.  It would be easy enough to do something similar in your 
> situation, you could group all your "HTTP" servers in a smartset and 
> then use a script to list the items in the smartset and run "checks" 
> against them (A quick shell script doing a wget would be easy 
> enough).  If this check fails then you could send a trap to Netview.
>  
> In my case I'm using Coordinator from Magnum Technologies to handle
> the correlation of network related problems, but someone on this list 
> might know of a way to integrate the TRAP into an event that Netview 
> could do something with.  In my cause I only need to notify 
> Coordinator, but I would love to also manipulate the color of the 
> symbol if the function check fails.... this is a future goal :)
>  
> Hope this gives you some ideas.
>  
> Jason
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
>     [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] *On Behalf Of
>     *larry.pytlik@clorox.com
>     *Sent:* Friday, February 20, 2004 10:25 AM
>     *To:* nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
>     *Subject:* Re: [nv-l] The use of HTTP for node up/down instead of
>     ping or snmp ?
>
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>     That is unfortunate, we are trying to replace "What's UP Gold"
>     network monitor which does this type of monitoring and fold this
>     function it into Netview, (UNIX). I would like to hear  from
>     anyone who has implemented HTTP node up/down using Netview in a
>     UNIX environment.
>
>     Regards
>     Larry Pytlik
>     Clorox
>     Network Engineering
>
>
>     Please respond to nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
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>     Subject:        Re: [nv-l] The use of HTTP for node up/down
>     instead of ping or snmp?
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>     NetView is an SNMP manager first and foremost.
>     The short answer is that there is no such option, so you would
>     have to build something of your own to monitor these boxes, as
>     netmon will not discover them.
>
>     How you might do that will depend greatly on whether you are on
>     Windows or UNIX, and on the capabilities of the boxes themselves.
>
>     On UNIX, NetView offers a complete programming toolkit for non-ip
>     topology and manuals on how to utilize it.  That would give you a
>     full-blown solution.  But it requires C/C++ programming on your
>     part.   Otherwise you might be able to rig something with servmon
>     and scripts.
>
>     James Shanks
>     Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
>     Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
>
>     *larry.pytlik@clorox.com*
>     Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
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>     02/19/2004 06:06 PM
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>     How do I configure Netview to use HTTP for node up/down for a few
>     "special" network nodes? The particular nodes do not have SNMP and
>     Ping is blocked but http is allowed.
>     Our Netview version is 7.1.3FP02.
>
>     Regards
>     Larry Pytlik
>     Clorox
>     Network Engineering
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